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DC: Arming the District
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"BECAUSE THE District bans handguns, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.) complains that she had to dismantle her weapon when she came to town. She said that at home in Texas, 'I had always had a handgun in the drawer next to my bed.' That may be, but it doesn't give Mrs. Hutchison a legitimate cause to propose a repeal of the city's wise law, given the strong opposition of District leaders and residents to the idea of keeping guns in their homes. Yet Mrs. Hutchison, joined by fellow Republicans George Allen (Va.) and John Cornyn (Tex.), has sponsored a wrongheaded bill to kill D.C. gun laws." ...

"Many District residents also know, as the Brady campaign reports, that a gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in an unintentional shooting than in self-defense; that nearly all childhood unintentional shooting deaths occur in and around the home; and that a gun in the home is 11 times more likely to be used in an attempted suicide than to injure or kill in self-defense." ...
 

Comment by: markht@bellsouthdotnet (5/22/2005)
..."a gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in an unintentional shooting than in self-defense..."

I thought it was 43 times. Or was it 42? Or -- well, what was it last month? Last year? Does this change all the time? Statistics, statistics....wait. Maybe the number was 44 times? Oh well.
It's a bunch hoooey anyway.
Think about it. Something like 2 million incidents each year people use guns to defend themselves...
now we KNOW there aren't 84,000,000 accidental deaths each year from guns, right???
Geeeesh.
 

Comment by: jefferybird@msn.com (5/22/2005)
"If Texas and Virginia choose to ignore the logic of those statistics"

Logic ceases when statistics are skewered and twisted to favor an opinion. Logic is based on facts. History is facts and history has proven that criminal activity (government and gutter scum) increases when the population is disarmed. Logic deems that an armed populace will have less criminal activity.
 

Comment by: skslover (5/22/2005)
Something else people forget is that just because something is logical, does not mean it is rational. An example would be a professor at the university I go to--he demonstrates this each year by using logic to prove that there is a [i]crocodile in his classroom.[/i]

Does he use logic?
Yes.

Did he satisfactorily prove it?
Yes.

Does this make it either true or rational?
No!
 

Comment by: dougj241 (5/23/2005)
'Mayor Anthony A. Williams (D) described the senators' proposal as an "assault on self-government." '

"But there's no excuse for legislators from those states to impose their views on this city."

I would refer the author of this article to the US Constitution. Congress has exclusive power of legislation in the District of Columbia. The Mayor and City Council are, legally, advisors only. Congress cannot legally delegate their legislative power to anyone.
 

Comment by: dougj241 (5/23/2005)
'Mayor Anthony A. Williams (D) described the senators' proposal as an "assault on self-government." '

"But there's no excuse for legislators from those states to impose their views on this city."

I would refer the author of this article to the US Constitution. Congress has exclusive power of legislation in the District of Columbia. The Mayor and City Council are, legally, advisors only. Congress cannot legally delegate their legislative power to anyone.
 

Comment by: mikestraw1@juno.com (5/23/2005)
Since District residents "know," as the Brainless Brady campaign reports, that a gun is 22 times more likely to be used in an unintentional shooting than in self-defense; and that a gun is 11 times more likely to be used in a suicide than to injure or kill in self-defense, then we can lower the level of violence in the District, if we believe such figures, by simply disarming Washington's many mercenary proxy-guardian "police," whom headlines confirm daily are the major source of such easily-preventable tragedies.
One would logically conclude that if we allow our erstwhile "servants," mercenary proxy-guardian "police," such latitude, a corollary would be that their masters, the People, are as entitled to the tools as well.
Molon Labe!
 

Comment by: cmjrdj@yahoo.com (5/23/2005)
The WORST criminals in D.C. are the Mayor, the police chief, and Eleanor Holmes Norton!
 

Comment by: gruhn@hwb.com (5/23/2005)
Statistics.
(Statist-ics)
They are about averages and "society" and blah blah blah. I care about me. I'll let me worry about protecting myself from people who wish to do me harm. I'll let me worry about not shooting myself in the foot. Stay out of my bedroom/closet/den.
 

Comment by: akgreen@jhmi.edu (5/23/2005)
Just one question..........
If this BS is true, then why is DC with all its stingent guns laws (the MOST stringent in the country) still such a dangerous place?
 

Comment by: lwarner11@hotmail.com (5/23/2005)
I'd like to ask Mayor Anthony A. Williams (D), Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.), Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey, and School Superintendent Clifford B. Janey the following question:

Why, if total government control means total safety, are prisons so dangerous?
 

Comment by: NRA4EVER (5/23/2005)
The minute someone uses the Kellerman study to back up their anti-gun logic they lose the argument. Kellerman himself admitted that his study was wrong and that he used flawed stats to prove his assumptions.

I am always amazed that so many sheeple love to remain sheeple. No thought of independance or self reliance. They love putting their responsibilities on the shoulders of others.

They shed responsibility like a snake sheds its skin.

 

Comment by: oldmandf@juno.com (5/23/2005)
These people that hold our right to self defense at arms length are the true criminal and DC seems to be full of the well dressed, afluent and overpaid criminals not to mention a few thousand real thugs.

Maybe it is not our northern & southern borders that need some "vigilante" assistance from the MMP.

I would be glad to donate a rope or two...
 

Comment by: crazy8nolonger@aol.com (5/23/2005)
"Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.) complains that she had to dismantle her weapon when she came to town. "

Ms. Hutchison strikes me as being a pretty smart lady. Mebbe the pistol in her nightstand is dismantled, but I'll bet the one she carries is fully assembled.

I have no desire to test this theory in person.
 

Comment by: one_immortal@msn.com (5/24/2005)
When I lived in D. C.(before the gun ban), I owned several guns including a 12 guage shotgun and two German Shepards. Still a burglar tried to enter the home while I and my family (and the dog) slept. The dog alerted first, and charged down the stairs charging to the sound of forced entry followed by myself as the wife called the D. C. police. By the time they arrived, the bad guy was gone, possibly watching from bushes nearby but unseen and not found by three carloads of police. In those days one could depend on the wonderful D. C. police. I would not even consider living in that same house these days. This of course before D.C. became known as the Murder Capitol of the U.S.A...........
 

Comment by: NO AWB (5/24/2005)
I guess that's why there are no accidental shootings, no shootings by criminals and no suicides by gun in D.C.

It's nice to know that in our nation's capital, all the criminals abide by the laws proscribing firearms.

I guess all DC cops can all go home now.

The place must be a utopian dream-world. So -- how in the world did it become the murder capital of the US?

Give an idiot a typewriter, and access to statistics, and this is the type of blather said idiot pounds out.

Yeah, idiot, you are MUCH safer in DC with the local gun laws in force, than you are in a place like Vermont.
 

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