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"I am concerned about...suicides that will result from the concealed-carry legislation."
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This editorial comes from a Dr. Greg Bachhuber -- a Minnesota physician who is happy that the battle to legalize concealed carry of firearms for self-defensive purposes in Wisconsin has been temporarily halted.

Something he says is just too bizarre for words:

"I am concerned about ...suicides that will result from the concealed-carry legislation."

We do not recall any news stories of concealed weapons permittees committing suicide while carrying -- and we monitor such things closely. But we did read about a police officer last week murdering his wife and then blowing his own brains out.

The doctor needs to see a shrink.

letters@duluthnews.com
 

New provision in federal law put guns records out of public's reach
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"The government no longer is releasing records tracking the source of firearms used in crimes, a concession to the gun lobby approved by Congress last month."

"The change was enforced for the first time last week when the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives turned down Freedom of Information Act requests made by The Associated Press and others for certain gun records."

"The change bars the release of any information that was gathered regarding gun dealers and forces the ATF to more quickly purge information obtained in background checks of buyers. Law enforcement agencies still would have access." ...

"The Bush administration, gun groups and other supporters said it was needed to ensure police investigations were not compromised by the release of data and to protect gun dealers from those who would use the information to unfairly tar dealers." ...
 

Homeland Security Camera -- 360 degree pictures, face recognition capable
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"A prototype camera, conceived in Oak Ridge, could be the country's latest weapon in homeland security and defense. And its first test site is at the Cumberland Gap tunnel."

"There are 23 cameras at the Cumberland Gap Tunnel Authority Control Center. But one camera has a perspective unique, the iPIX camera. It's changing surveillance with its ability to take 360 degree images." ...

"iPIX Vice President David Southard explains further. 'You can do facial recognition, look at license plates, watch a vehicle or a pedestrian move through the entire scene.' " ...

"Tennessee Congressman Zach Wamp serves on the Homeland Security Subcommittee. He said Friday that he likes what he sees in the iPIX camera and technology." ...
 

NH: Student, 8, had gun in school
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft
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"An 8-year-old boy brought a real but nonworking handgun to Sandown North Elementary School last week, and police have tried unsuccessfully to charge the student’s mother with endangering the welfare of a child."

"A Derry District Court judge denied the Sandown PD an arrest warrant, and Police Chief Scott Currier said the department has contacted the Bureau of ATF to determine the possibility of federal charges."

" 'We feel strongly that something should be done,' said Currier. 'She should know better than to let her child bring a gun to school.' "

"According to a police affidavit, the boy’s mother told him he could bring the disabled firearm to school as long as it was not taken out until he got to his friend’s house after school."
 

The Tragic Cost of Complacency
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"How many times have we seen headlines screaming, 'Slumbering homeowner awakens to armed intruder,' or 'Armed thugs smash door, terrorize residents.' "

"Not one of the innocent children, who trusted their unconstitutionally-disarmed, condition white parents, kidnapped out of their own bedrooms, some at gunpoint, have ever returned alive, or in the case of Elizabeth Smart, undamaged."

"We’ve all seen the headlines about illegal shootings, stabbings, bombings and other mayhem at workplaces throughout our nation, undeterred by a plethora of mala prohibita laws or mercenary proxy-guardian 'police.' "

"Not a day goes by without another sordid tale of another vicious carjacking, abduction at knifepoint, or other illegal assault while anxiously getting into or out of your vehicle."

"According to a Department of 'Justice' report in March 1999, between 1992 and 1996, an average of almost fifty thousand carjackings occurred each year. In about ninety percent of them, an illegal weapon was employed."

"A study by the Illinois mercenary proxy-guardian state 'police' of 1994 to 1996 carjackings showed most were gang-related."
 

Malaysia: Cop denies dragging villager
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft
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"ASP Mohd Izaan Abdullah, 42, has denied dragging villager Milah Bangaloi, 53, during an eviction process."

"He said he led her for 10 to 15 feet along a path (cleared of bushes), although there were bushes around the path, to be handed over to Lance-Corporal Ravi A/L BalaKrishnan and taken away."

" 'She was walking all the way. I never dragged her. They (villagers) are lying,' he told the open inquiry into alleged police brutality that entered its third day, Friday."

"Asked by Commissioner Tan Sri Dato’ (Dr) Ramon Navaratnam how the mild soft tissue injury on Milah’s shoulder could have happened, Izaan, now Ranau CID Chief, replied: 'I just do not know.' "

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Right. Witnesses are lying. The police would never abuse their power against a disarmed populace!
 

Philippines: Robber shoots couple in Valenzuela
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"A couple was shot and seriously injured by one of two motorcycle-riding men who robbed them after withdrawing money from a local bank in Valenzuela City."

"The holdup men who managed to escape were able to cart away P200,000 in cash."

"Injured were Felino Ibay, 35, and wife, Thess, 30, both of Camarin, Libis, Novaliches. The two are now confined at the Quezon City General Hospital for treatment of bullet wounds."

"Police said the robbers are members of the notorious 'DT gang' who prey on bank depositors and clients."

"The two just withdrew money from Metro Bank and were about to pay for the construction materials they ordered from Rochi."

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More vulnerable victims of government disarmament.
 

UK: Reporter faces possible two years in prison for whistle-blowing
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"Friends of liberty, raise hell! To the barricades, or at least to the post office and the emails. A British citizen named Katharine Gun faces two years in prison for revealing that the U.S. National Security Agency tried -- and succeeded -- in getting the Brits to help us with illegal spying operations at the United Nations. The targets were the delegations of the six countries on the U.N. Security Council that were undecided on how to vote on the critical Iraqi war resolution." ...
 

Kenya: Police Gun Used to Kill Chief, Court Told
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"International athlete John Cheruiyot used a police firearm to kill a Molo assistant chief a year ago, the High Court heard yesterday."

"A witness told Mr Justice Muga Apondi, sitting in Nakuru, that a pistol belonging to a CID officer was used to kill Mr Victor Bett."

"Mr John Moiben added that the sportsman gave him the gun to deliver to the officer hours after the shooting."

"The witness said he met Cheruiyot at the Adidas Athletics Training Camp in Kericho, where he informed him about the shooting."

"Yesterday, Moiben said Cheruiyot had arrived at the camp at 5am looking disturbed. 'He said he wanted to leave for Nairobi immediately because he had killed an assistant chief using a borrowed pistol,' Moiben said."
 

VA: Gun locks available
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft
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"Gunlocks are now available 'free' from the city police and sheriff's department, adding Petersburg to a growing list of localities that provide the safety devices to the public, no questions asked."

"It is hoped that the locks will prevent accidental firing of weapons, including by children. To that end, the sheriff's department has distributed flyers around the city to publicize the free gun locks."

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Accidental shootings accounted for the deaths of 72 children in 2001. Could $50 million invested in other programs perhaps save more lives?
 

MD: Sheriff's deputy negligently discharges his weapon, shooting another deputy
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"Officials say Frederick County sheriff's deputy, Richard Gast, was accidentally shot last night. Authorities say a gun belonging to another deputy went off accidentally as the officers entered a home in Ladd Court with a warrant. Gast was flown to Baltimore's Shock Trauma Center. He was treated and released this morning. The unidentified deputy who fired his weapon is now on paid administrative leave, pending an internal investigation."

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When it comes to an unplanned firearm discharge, the word "accident" is incorrect. The term is "negligent."

Some people in Maryland want to ban so-called "assault weapons." Maybe they should instead ban Assault Deputies.
 

UK: Guns Cache Found in Robbery Probe Swoop
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft
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"A formidable arsenal of weapons to be used in gun crime were discovered in a flat during an armed police raid, the Old Bailey heard today."

"Officers investigating an attempted security van raid burst into the west London address in the early hours on November 20, 2002 and discovered a number of Austrian, Italian and Chinese-made arms, alleged Mark Gadsden, prosecuting."

"One of the flat’s occupants, Jado Pommell, fled barefoot in just his underwear but was caught after a struggle, he said."

"Among the arms collection inside the flat was a sawn-off Winchester pump action shotgun and self-loading pistol allegedly used in the raid nine days earlier, he told the jury."

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How does a person get an "arsenal" in a country where guns are banned?
 

Canada: Only public inquiry can unearth the truth about why police gunned down suspect
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft
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"Admittedly, Thomas Stevenson wasn't the kind of fella most girls would rush home to meet mom. But the cops didn't know that when they took him down in a hail of bullets while he sat in the interior of a dark, locked car they had already disabled."

"For all they knew, he could have been your husband, or son."

"Indeed, he has a wife, kids and a dad back east who are plagued by a million nagging questions about the inexplicable execution of their husband, dad, son."

"It isn't simply the events that led the two officers to gun down the 46-year-old that torments them. But the possibility that some cops, even among the 30 officers who arrived after the fatal alley-way shooting -- might have fudged the facts."
 

TN: Teen with gun at school arrested
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Metro Police Youth Services detectives arrested a 14-year-old seventh grader yesterday at Madison School for carrying a loaded .380 semiautomatic pistol on campus, police said.

The school's principal learned from another student that the teen was suspected of having a gun. The principal searched the boy and found the weapon in his jacket pocket. The pistol's clip was loaded with five bullets, police said.

The student said he bought the gun on the street and forgot that he had it in his jacket. He was charged at Juvenile Court with carrying a gun on school property.
 

MD: Deputy Shot During Drug Investigation; Cops claim the gun went of "automatically"(Another report)
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The Frederick County sheriff's deputy who was shot in a raid has been released from the hospital. According to the county sherriff's office, the shooting of Deputy Richard Gast may have been an accident.

The shooting happened around 10:20 p.m. while a drug investigation was taking place in Ladd Court. Officials said a fellow deputy's gun went off automatically, shooting Deputy Gast. He was airlifted to Baltimore's Shock Trama Center Thursday night and was released Friday morning.

The deputy who accidentally fired his weapon has been put on paid leave. The investigation is ongoing.

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It's one thing to confirm negligence or claim that the shooting was an accident. It's quite another - a higher level of avoidance of responsibility - to claim the gun went off "automatically."
 

PA: Mercer County school worker charged with weapons offenses
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A 34-year-old worker at George Junior Republic, a Mercer County treatment center for juveniles, has been charged with keeping two guns and two hunting knives on school property.

Nathan Andrew Horstman, of Grove City, a cottage parent at the residential facility for abused and delinquent boys, was charged Sunday with possessing a loaded Glock 9mm pistol, a pellet rifle and two large knives, which are prohibited on the campus.

Horstman was released from Mercer County Jail on $20,000 bond Monday.
 

Canada: Gun registry cost now close to $2 Billion (original project was $2 Million)
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"Nearly $2 billion has either been spent on or committed to the federal program since it was introduced in the mid-1990s, according to documents obtained by Zone Libre of CBC's French news service."

"The figure is roughly twice as much as an official government estimate that caused an uproar across the country."

"The gun registry was originally supposed to cost less than $2 million. In December 2002, Auditor General Sheila Fraser revealed that the program would run up bills of at least $1 billion by 2005." ...

"The auditor general has pledged to re-examine the gun registry to come up with an updated assessment. Last month, Prime Minister Paul Martin rejected calls to scrap the program." ...

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So now we're looking at a program running 1,000 times more expensive than originally projected -- with no scientific evidence that it will reduce crime -- and a government committed to continuing anyway. In other words, situation normal.
 

CA: Marine held in stabbing claims self defense, mother says
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft
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"The mother of a Marine detained in the fatal stabbing of another Marine in California last week says he told her he was trying to break up a fight and acted in self-defense."

"Millette was stabbed in the neck between midnight and 1 a.m. Feb. 3 at the Marine base in Twentynine Palms, Calif. The base, in the Mojave Desert, is used for combined arms exercise training. The stabbing occurred after a fight broke out in the base's living quarters."

"Hawk said Laramore told her he came upon the fight after the day's training exercises, and that in the process of trying to break it up, he stabbed Millette in the neck while defending himself."
 

OH: Yell loud, hit hard, run fast
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft
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"Knowledge is not fear. Children are not afraid of this knowledge; it's the parents who are afraid."

"In her children's self-defense classes Kohl preaches the mantra, Yell loud, hit hard, run fast."

"It's a message that might have saved Carlie Brucia's life. The most chilling part of the security tape is how calmly she is led away by her alleged killer, Joseph Smith. She doesn't struggle."

"As Kohl watched the surveillance videotape, she couldn't stop herself from calling out instructions: 'Hit him on the forearm! Kick him in the knees! Give him a hammer fist to the face!' "

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Kick him in the knees? How about kicking him in the groin as hard as possible and then administering a palm strike to the bridge of the nose after he doubles over in pain from getting his manhood mangled.
 

One Soldier's Valentine's Day in 1945
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"When his plane was hit over Germany by ground artillery, Walter and two other enlisted men were ordered to bail out." ...
 

MD: Charges Rejected In 2 Fatal Shootings
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"A Prince George's County grand jury declined yesterday to indict two men who, in separate incidents last month, fatally shot people who authorities said were trying to break into their homes."

"The grand jury declined to file charges against Ronald B. Holmes, 63, of Adelphi and Glenn D. Bivens, 79, of Mitchellville."

"County State's Attorney Glenn F. Ivey said he agreed with the grand jury's decisions. Ivey said prosecutors presented the evidence in both shootings without asking for or recommending indictments."

" 'I'm certainly comfortable with the grand jury's decisions to decline to bring charges in these cases,' Ivey said. 'There were elements of self-defense in both cases.' "
 

Fiji: Fiji's PM disturbed by pistol discharge incident
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A personal bodyguard of Fiji's Prime Minister Laisenia Qarase has been released from duty after accidentally discharging his pistol a meter away from the Prime Minister.

The Prime minister's personal press officer said the PM's Office was concerned about the incident which happened last Wednesday at the official residence.

Radio Fiji quotes him as saying the pistol was accidentally discharged while the bodyguard was cleaning it.

The army says an investigation is underway.
 

NY: Domestic Violence Bill Seeks to Expand the Definition of "Family" to Include Non-Family
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"Homicides, drug-related crimes and even gun-related crimes did not top Monroe County's court cases in 2003. It was domestic violence crime which dominated the court docket."

"There were 532 domestic violence cases in 2003. And today, local lawmakers got a chance to take a closer look at four bills up for discussion in the State Assembly and Senate this year..." ...

"The first bill is an expanded definition of 'family and household-member.' The bill gives expanded protection to non-family members in an abusive situation, including court orders of protection. Non-family members [are] those who are not related by blood, marriage or child." ...

"The last bill is one which would require both the victim and the accused to disclose any and all firearms to the courts." ...

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Got that? Family includes non-family, and domestic violence includes non-domestic violence, and the objective is gun confiscation.

REMINDER: The Lautenberg Amendment (9/30/1996) expanded federal law's list of people prohibited from possessing firearms to include people convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence.

To catch more fish, use a bigger net -- right? If we don't support calling non-family "family" and non-domestic "domestic," we're spouse beaters and child abusers, right?
 

NY: Gun crimes in gun-free New York City
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41st Pct.

FEB. 3rd - An undercover drug investigator fired a shot while arresting an armed suspect.

42nd Pct.

FEB. 1st - Additional police officers were needed in the Morrisian community after a man was shot in the chest.

FEB. 2nd - A teen was nabbed in possession of a shotgun. KABA NOTE: The "teen" was 19, but that won't stop Brady and crew from making this a "children and firearms" issue.

FEB. 3rd - While displaying a handgun, the three males entered the eatery demanding their money from a Hut Fried Chicken employee.

43rd Pct.

FEB. 1st - Two armed males robbed a female cab driver at gunpoint.

44th Pct.

JAN. 31st - An 18-year-old male was treated at Lincoln Medical Center for a head wound [gunshot wound].
 

TX: Texas church tries guns for roses on Valentines Day
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"A church in Dallas, Texas, wants people to show their love by giving up their guns this Valentine's Day."

"The First Presbyterian Church in Dallas is sponsoring a program for people to turn in their guns to mark the celebration of love."

"The sponsors will give $US50 for each gun, and would be glad if the cash was used to purchase candy or flowers for Valentine's Day."

" 'We are not trying to disarm Cupid of his bow and arrow but provide another meaningful opportunity for individuals to show their affection for their families by making their homes safe this Valentine's Day,' church pastor Bruce Buchanan said." ...

"The Valentine's Day celebration will be overseen by armed police."

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Are taxpayers paying the "armed police" to engage in this activity? Do you have any thoughts you might like to share with the pastor and other staff of this church? If so, have at it:

Associate Pastor
The Rev. Dr. Bruce Buchanan
bruceb@presbyterians.org

All Staff Email Addresses:
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There may be some useful information in the following archive you could share with these people: Christianity and Firearms

You do not show love by disarming yourself and your loved ones and leaving them at the mercy of armed thugs. That's not love. That's insanity.
 

OH: Campus victim zone: Shooting puzzles peaceful Bluffton
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"We've said it before and we'll keep on saying it: so-called 'gun free' zones do nothing to prevent persons intent on breaking the law from doing so. Ohio's concealed carry law contains far too many defenseless victim zones, which do nothing to deter criminals, but do everything to endanger potential victims." ...
 

VA: House Panel Kills Gun Bill that Sought to Make Juvenile Crime End Gun Rights for Life
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"A House of Delegates committee killed legislation today that would have prevented juveniles convicted of murder and rape from carrying guns for the rest of their lives."

"Fairfax County Delegate James Scott said current law allows people convicted of violent crimes as juveniles to apply to carry weapons again when they are 29. His bill would have prohibited them from getting a gun permit unless they have had their civil rights restored."

"But Republicans on the House Militia, Police and Public Safety Committee argued the bill was too harsh." ...
 

TX: Teacher's Gun Stolen At High School
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"A student stole a loaded gun from a teacher's briefcase at a Fort Bend County high school..."

"Police said the unidentified teacher brought a loaded 45-caliber gun to Stafford High School, located at 1625 Staffordshire, on Thursday. A 16-year-old male student stole the weapon from the classroom when the teacher stepped out, according to investigators, and the student took the weapon home." ...

"School officials said the campus is secure and the threat no longer exists."

"The teacher was placed on administrative leave. The student was suspended." ...
 

Democrats and guns
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"Aside from same-sex 'marriage,' there is at least one other cultural issue no Democrat running against President Bush wants to touch: gun control. Bill Clinton and Al Gore both tried to avoid picking up this political hot potato in their 1992, 1996 and 2000 presidential campaigns because gun control is unpopular in swing states such as Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, and can harm a candidate's chances across the South. One consultant who worked for Wesley Clark's southern campaign said the best thing liberals can do during a gun-control debate is 'change the subject.' Not all Democrats agree, and some legislators on Capitol Hill plan to push gun-control measures up until the November election."
 

UT: Speaking Plainly About Guns
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"May we use equally plain language to express KSL’s view . . . and what repeated public opinion polls suggest is the long-held majority view in this state: Senator Waddoups and his concealed carry cronies could use a good dose of common sense."

"Guns, concealed or otherwise, don’t belong on college campuses!"

KABA Note: And why is that? Are students safer on college campuses? Can they not be raped or murdered? Do students not deserve to defend their lives and property?

About 1.7 percent of female college students reported being raped, and about 1.1 percent said they were victims of attempted rape, according to the report from the U.S. Justice Department's National Institute of Justice and Bureau of Justice Statistics.

An estimated 13 percent of college women had been stalked since the beginning of the school year, according to the study.

Should these women not be "allowed" to defend themselves with the most effective tool on the market today?

"KSL is not against the second amendment to the U.S. Constitution."

KABA Note: No, KSL is just against law abiding citizens exercising their rights under the Second Amendment.
 

OH: Ohio pizza delivery driver shot multiple times
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"Police are investigating a Feb. 11 incident in which a delivery driver was shot several times in a possible attempted robbery."

"According to the Dayton Daily News, the unidentified delivery driver, who police believe is in his 50s, works for Milano’s Pizzeria. The driver was shot in his chest, arm and leg after delivering an order to a house, said Sgt. Kelly Hamilton."

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Even when concealed carry becomes legal in Ohio this April, it won't matter, because many pizza delivery companies, as well as most independent shops, prohibit armed self-defense, and most politicians regard it as a privilege.
 

NY: Shooting range members at odds with cabin plan
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"Three members of the Whittenberg Sportsmens Club attended a public hearing Thursday morning to oppose a proposed cabin rental project on financial and environmental grounds. Club member Joe Liuni said his organization feels the town violated its zoning laws in approving the year-round project on land that was formerly a summer camp."
 

NY: Permit plan riles gun owners
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"As part of his 2004-05 budget, Pataki has proposed making handgun permits, currently issued for life, renewable every five years, while tacking on other new fees. The plan has received little support in the Legislature."
 

NY: Pistol-partier cop
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"Here's an NYPD lieutenant with a gun in one hand and a drink in the other, partying with pals at a Bronx cop bar."

"Lt. Idalia Santos shared a laugh and a drink with cop buddies recently at Jimmy K's Bar & Restaurant in Woodlawn, a source told The Post."

"In the shocking photo, Santos, 41, is holding the gun with the muzzle pointing toward the floor in her left hand and clutching a drink in the other."

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How charming. Another LEO treats his defensive tool as a toy, while the citizens of New York remain unarmed and subservient and dependent on the likes of him for their safety.
 

NY: Targeting gun fee
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"Of the nearly $1 billion in tax and fee hikes Gov. George E. Pataki proposed last month, the one squirreled away in Section I of the penal law sounds innocuous enough: a $100 fee on handgun permits once every five years that would cost gun owners about five cents a day."

"But the hike in handgun permit fees has sparked angry and increasingly vocal opposition, as gun owners claim the state is not only trying to take their money but their Second Amendment rights."
 

South Africa: Durban Police destroy 750 firearms
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Durban police have destroyed 750 illegal firearms including AK-47s and R1 rifles at Prospecton, south of the city.

Mulder van Eyk, the deputy provincial commissioner, says the action forms part of "Operation Setunya" during which more than 6 000 illegal firearms were recovered over a one-year period.

He says KwaZulu-Natal is the leader in the recovery of illegal arms in the country. Van Eyk says firearms are the single biggest contributor to violent crimes.

 

"If guns go, what next?" (Letter)
Submitted by: Blacksnake

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The gun debate circus goes on, with the Deseret Morning News right there in the center ring. The only thing ridiculous about the gunfight is the stand the Deseret Morning News has on the issue.

In a perfect world, there would be no need for guns. Even the wild beasts would be friendly and helpful. But, alas, things are far from perfect.

The question is not if guns have anything to do with higher education or if those carrying guns on campus would intimidate knowledge seekers. If one person feels so threatened to be prompted get a concealed firearms permit to feel secure, that should be reason enough.

If guns are taken from honest citizens on the campuses of higher education, what's next? Public transportation? Shopping malls? Parks? City streets? Our own homes? Finally it will be unlawful to own a gun, period. Is that what you want, Deseret Morning News?

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The answer to the last question should be fairly obvious. Statist thugs don't ever want a society in which individuals are able to defend themselves without having to rely on the nanny state for their safety. The Deseret Morning News is simply their propaganda tool.

 

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The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so. Indeed I would go so far as to say that the underdog is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order. — Adolf Hitler, April 11, 1942. (Source: "Hitler's Table-Talk at the Fuehrer's Headquarters 1941-1942", Dr. Henry Picker, ed. (Athenaeum Verlag, Bonn, 1951).)

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