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Our gun laws are a terrorist's dream
Submitted by: News Admin

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"For suspected terrorists, the United States must be a very confusing place. They're banned from flying on commercial airliners, yet they can stroll down to their neighborhood gun store and purchase anything they want, including assault rifles."

"There's no law against it, and no agency able to stop them, including the so-called Department of Homeland Security."

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Funny, then, that they don't do it. Maybe they're not aware of how easily they can purchase weapons here. After all, the media hasn't shouted it loudly enough. Or maybe the TNN (Terrorist News Network) is not working properly to let terrorists know they can purchase scary "Assault" rifles in the U.S.
 

Does the "culture of life" extend to the victims of gun violence?
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"Although Bush made a special trip back to Washington from vacation to sign legislation offering a new federal right of appeal to Terri Schiavo's parents, the president and his aides have said almost nothing about the mass shooting in Red Lake, Minn. — the deadliest outbreak of school violence since the 1999 Columbine High School massacre in Littleton, Colo."

"The Minnesota tragedy has increased alarm among some school safety professionals about Bush's efforts to eliminate funding for two major programs meant to prevent classroom violence, including a Clinton administration initiative to help schools hire more police officers." ...

""The bottom line is the gun lobby is too important a constituency to the Republican Party for them to do anything," said Kristen Rand, legislative director of the Violence Policy Center, a group that advocates gun control. "The sad reality is if Terri Schiavo had been shot, the administration would not have lifted a finger to help her."

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KABA Note: The sad reality is that no law would have prevented this from occurring, a fact that Rand and Brady cannot seem to grasp.
 

Whatever happened to gun control?
Submitted by: News Admin

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"In the wake of another spate of gun mayhem - this time in Red Lake, Minn., just nine days after a mass shooting in Brookfield, Wis. - the question resurfaces: Why can't a gun-control compromise be found to prevent such incidents?"
 

CO: NRA opposes license-fee bill
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"Unexpected opposition by the National Rifle Association to a proposed license-fee increase driven by the state’s sportsmen could scuttle a bill scheduled to be heard today by the Senate Committee on Agriculture, Livestock, and Natural Resources."

"The license-fee increase, which would raise resident big-game licenses and some resident fishing licenses, was produced by a coalition of the state’s sportsmen and conservation groups and backed by the Colorado Division of Wildlife."

"The bill, which would raise resident hunting fees for the first time in 13 years, passed the House Ag Committee last month and now faces a test in the Senate."

"According to the NRA Web site, the organization is opposing the part of the bill that would establish a $10 habitat stamp fee for anyone purchasing a hunting or fishing license or using one of the 104 State Wildlife Areas."
 

ME: Gun owners object to court-safety tax
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"Robert Hartley has been to a Maine courthouse only once, for jury duty. So when Hartley, an avid target shooter from Clinton, learned of a proposal for a new sales tax on guns to pay for courthouse security, he viewed the idea as unfair."

"He objects to having to spend more for his next firearm because someone else may bring a gun or a knife to court. 'I don't feel I should be singled out,' he said."
 

MI: Police give church warning on gun policy
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"The school and day-care center at Calvary Christian Church will be gun-free zones from now on."

"Police Chief Ted Quisenberry said he warned church and school leaders not to carry concealed weapons near the children anymore after reading newspaper reports about the Rev. Mark Byers' firearms policy."

"Byers, 54, heads the non-denominational church on 11 Mile Road just west of I-75, where he encourages members to take advantage of an exemption in the state law regulating the carrying of concealed weapons that allows congregants to pack at church with the pastor's permission."
 

FBI Signals a variance with Bush on gun control
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"FBI Director Robert Mueller hinted at a shift in Bush Administration policy today in a letter to Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), signaling his belief that gun control laws regulating background checks and the purchase of firearms deserve review..."
 

OH: Keep concealed-carry list secret
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"My neighborhood is a liberal's nightmare. Four out of five driveways have gas-gulping SUVs. Kerry-Edwards yard signs were harder to find than a lawn without mole tracks. And according to the Ohio attorney general, I live in Colt County - the state capital of concealed carry."

"Some people think that's scary. Not me. I look at Clermont County leading the state with 2,285 concealed-carry permits - and I sleep peacefully."

"That's because guns discourage crime even better than traps discourage moles. This should be obvious to anyone who has ever noticed a holster on a cop's belt. But apparently, it's big news to lots of folks in Ohio."
 

MI: Airport Security Updates List Of Packing No-Nos
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"The Transportation Security Administration maintains a list on their Web site of items that won't get past security checkpoint at the airport. Metal scissors with pointed tips are not allowed in carry-on bags and quick-on-the-draw smokers will have to leave their gun lighters at home as the TSA does not allow them in carry-on or checked luggage."

"Officials say up to 400 items are confiscated every day by security at Metro Airport."
 

NH: Gun-Toting Senior Plans to Appeal Ban on His Pic
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"A federal judge has barred a New Hampshire high school senior from posing with a shotgun in his yearbook photo."

"Avid trap shooter Blake Douglass wants his Londonderry High School senior portrait to feature him with his shotgun broke open over his shoulder. But Judge Steven McAuliffe has ruled that the decision to ban the photo was made by student editors, and thus school administrators did not violate the free-speech rights of Douglass." ...

"School officials claim they were merely following their 'no props' policy for yearbook photos. Douglass plans to take the case to the First U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals."
 

UK: Gunshots terror at concert
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"OUR premier concert venue has been given the full backing of police after a masked gunman unleashed a volley of shots midway through a gig."

"Chaos erupted when the maniac pulled a weapon and fired twice into the air 25 minutes into Monday's sell-out performance by US rapper Nas at Brixton Academy."
 

AZ: Murder charge in hiking-trail shooting tossed out
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"A judge today threw out the murder charge against a Valley man who shot to death a hiker during a confrontation over the hiker's dogs in southeastern Coconino County."

"Coconino County Superior Court Judge Mark Moran's ruling will give Harold Fish another chance before a grand jury if prosecutors choose to take the case back to the grand jury."

"Last summer, the grand jury indicted Fish, a retired teacher, on a count of second-degree murder in the May 11 killing of Grant Kuenzli, who was camped in the forest with his three dogs."

"Moran ruled that prosecutors omitted significant facts and did not correct misleading testimony in a daylong presentation of their case against Fish." ...
 

Group Says More Gun Laws Wouldn't Stop School Shooting
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"The Illinois State Rifle Association says the school shooting in Red Lake, Minn., is no reason to attack law-abiding citizens' right to own firearms."

"ISRA said it is particularly offended by an editorial in the Chicago Tribune that urged elected officials to respond to the shooting with stiffer gun control legislation." ...

"The Second Amendment group said it has more faith in the American people than gun control advocates do: While most Americans are horrified by the shooting, 'we know that the American people are smart enough to understand that the events surrounding this crime would not have been affected at all by any gun control ever passed or ever proposed.' "
 

ND: Bismarck armory opens firing range to legislators
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"House Majority Leader Rick Berg is an experienced legislator, but he needs a lot of work at the gun range."

"Since the Legislature began, the North Dakota National Guard has been opening its indoor firing range, located in its armory on the east side of town, for legislators to relax by doing some target shooting once a week."

"Berg was among a group of lawmakers who turned up for Wednesday night's shooting. It was the first time during the 2005 session that he had been able to attend, and it showed. He was inconsistent with a pistol, firing too fast, with his rounds often off-target."
 

South Africa: Gun Amnesty Not for Criminals: Nqakula
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"Safety and Security Minister Charles Nqakula says the firearms amnesty ending on 31 March is meant for illegal gun owners and not for people who committed crimes using these guns." ...

"He said those who used these guns to steal, kill, rape and commit any other crime would face the full wrath of the law."

"The amnesty is aimed at reducing the number of illegal firearms in circulation in the country and has also been extended to people who own them legally and feel they no longer need them."
 

OH: Pellet Guns At School, On Streets Cause Police Problems
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"Four students may face expulsion from a local middle school for allegedly taking soft air pellet guns onto school grounds ..." ...

"One was found on the playground, and several students told police they were shot with plastic BBs, Tate reported. No one was seriously hurt, but four boys, ages 11 and 12, could be disciplined for taking the guns to school and possibly trying to sell them."

"Police said the pellet guns often look like real guns." ...

"In Gahanna, police haven't had a problem with pellet guns in schools, but have had issues with them on streets. Officers said they don't have time to hesitate, and it could cost a life."

 

PA: Anti-gun efforts to counter homicide spree
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"Gov. Rendell and Mayor Street said today they would beef up anti-gun efforts in Philadelphia in response to a spate of 86 shootings this year."

"Eight more state police officers will be added to the city's existing efforts to crack down on illegal gun trafficking, Rendell said after the meeting."

"State police also will be added to similar units in Pittsburgh and other locations in Pennsylvania, Rendell said."
 

Kenya: Commuters to Be Frisked for Firearms
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"Public Service Vehicles (PSV) passengers will be frisked for firearms, police spokesman Jasper Ombati said yesterday."

"He said the searches on both long- and short-distance vehicles during the Easter holiday would help the police to detect carjackers." ...

"Meanwhile, Catholic Archbishop Ndingi Mwana 'a Nzeki yesterday condemned National Security minister John Michuki's shoot-to-kill order on those with illegal firearms."

"He said the order would result in many innocent lives being lost."
 

IL: Bill would allow judges to carry weapons
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"A bill that will be introduced in Springfield would allow judges in Illinois to carry weapons if it is passed. This comes after federal Judge Joan Lefkow's family was murdered in Chicago and after a shooting in a courtroom in Atlanta."

"Some critics, including a former Illinois Supreme Court justice, say this is not a good idea." ...

"Springfield Senator Larry Bomke suggests that unlike heavily protected courthouses, judges in more rural areas of Illinois have far less protection and ought to be able to arm themselves on the bench and elsewhere if they choose."

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Too bad regular, everyday citizens' lives aren't worth as much as the judges to be extended the same courtesy.
 

Michelle Malkin: All about the Minnesota high school shooter (Blog)
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Under "More about me," Weise wrote:

"On anti-depressants. Seeing a therapist... Thats about it, I got a brand new pair of cuts on my wrists that are gonna turn into beautiful scars some day." ...

"I'm nothin' but your average Native American stoner. I'm mellow half the time, mostly natural, but mostly drug induced as well. I'm not a junkie, or an alcoholic, MJ is my gal' of choice. Enough about that though, I don't know why you're readin' this anyway. I'm gonna roll this joint so I'll c'ya later..."



 

Canada: Border guns pushed
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"Canada's customs agents should be armed with guns because they can no longer depend on reliable police back-up at border crossings, according to the chair of an influential Senate committee. 'We're moving closer (to recommending that) as we're examining this issue, simply because we see inadequate police response to the concerns that are being expressed,' said Liberal Sen. Colin Kenny, head of the national defence and security committee."
 

UK: Police and public gun crime views
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"The proliferation of weapons available to criminals is a myth. In my own force area the number of fatal shootings and serious woundings involving guns has reduced by 16 per cent in the past two years. Reported increases in gun crime across the UK are mainly due to the inclusion in official figures of non-lethal imitation firearms (mainly ball-bearing guns)." ...

"As you report, after the UK handgun ban, gun crime and violence have increased. Restrictive gun control helps criminals. ..."
 

UK: Two held after armed police siege
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"Two men have been arrested after an armed police siege in Merseyside."

"A passer-by told police he saw a man with a gun in a car on Thursday morning. The vehicle was traced to a house in Thompson Road, Seaforth."

"Officers sealed off the house, closed several roads and told neighbours to stay indoors while a police negotiator talked to the occupants."
 

Rumsfeld questions Venezuela rifle deal
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"Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Wednesday criticized Venezuela's reported efforts to purchase 100,000 AK-47 assault rifles from Russia, suggesting that Venezuela's possession of so many weapons would threaten the Western Hemisphere."

" 'I can't understand why Venezuela needs 100,000 AK-47s. I personally hope it doesn't happen,' Rumsfeld said at a news conference in Brasilia, the capital of Brazil, which shares a border with Venezuela. He is on a four-day trip to Latin America."

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Submitter's Note: Let's see now....Bush & Co. don't like WMD and they don't like hand-carried infantry rifles. What do Bush & Co. think about ME having guns?
 

'Clues were all there' about teen's troubles
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"There was the threat Weise, 16, once made on his own life, sending him away from his home on the Red Lake Indian Reservation for psychiatric treatment. There were the pictures of bloodied bodies and guns he drew and shared freely at school. There was the story he apparently wrote about a shooting spree at a school in a small town."

... "Everything was laid out, right there, for the school or the authorities in Red Lake to see it coming. I don't want to blame Red Lake, but did they not put two and two together? This kid was crying out, and those guys chose to ignore it. ..."

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KABA Note: The kid's own grandfather - a law enforcement officer with whom he LIVED didn't see it, but the school was supposed to?
 

How To Stop School Shootings?
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"Spare me most of all the moronic ranting and raving of the gun grabbers who always seem a little pleased when such tragedies happen and afford then an opportunity to blame guns and gun owners. Of all those who seek to deflect blame from the killer the gun control zealots are, by far, the most disturbing."

"...The killer is at fault alone here. After all, he killed his grandfather and then took his guns. If you are willing to commit murder to get hold of a gun what law would stop you?"

"The facts are crystal clear on guns and violent crime. These acts are never committed where they know people are armed do they? In those, States that allow citizens to carry concealed weapons violent crime decreases doesn’t it? Several of the school shootings in recent years have been stopped by law-abiding citizens with concealed carry permits haven’t they? ..."
 

The Defense Secretary Is Correct, AK-47s Aren't Good for the Hemisphere Says Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"The Bush Administration very deliberately allowed the Federal assault weapons ban to expire last fall. Since the ban expired, it is quite likely that there are more than 100,000 new assault weapons like AK-47s in the United States." ...

""The Administration is right -- Venezuela shouldn't be allowed to flood its streets with military-style assault weapons... Only the United States should be allowed to flood its streets with military-style assault weapons."

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Note: Rights infringement a la Brady. It's not just for Americans anymore.
 

OH: Inmate flees 'no-guns' hospital after 'nearly taking life' of officer (OFCC)
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft
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"As most know, St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center in Toledo is a 'No Guns' hospital. I'm sure you also know that there have been three or four attacks in the parking garage in the recent months. To that effect, they have built more fences and posted more -unarmed- security guards in the parking lots for employee protection."

"St. V's also provided free training to female employees on self defense, I suppose in order protect themselves from -armed- criminals in the parking garages and lots."

"Last night, a incarcerated three months pregnant woman was at St. V's for a checkup and overpowered a security guard and was able to escape from the hospital." ...
 

FL: Women Fight Back
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft
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"Twenty women wait quietly in a small hall down at the police station. Yelling and cheering can be heard from the other room. Suddenly there is a loud thud against the wall. The women gasp in surprise and a few laugh softly. The door opens and a young woman in black boxing gloves, matching knee and elbow pads, and a helmet steps out slouching slightly and gasping for breath. 'I knocked him flat on the floor,' she says with a big smile. All the women cheer and clap as they crowd around her and help take off the pads."

"For the last two weeks these women have been learning to defend themselves at RAD (Rape Aggression Defense) class, a nationally accredited self-defense program specially designed to fit a woman's strengths. ..." ...

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Submitter's Note: And a woman is still 2 1/2 times more likely to be injured not resisting than she is if she resists with a gun.
 

DC: Shooting at Georgia Av. McDonalds
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"Two adult males were shot in the Georgia Ave. McDonald's parking lot at 12:37 a.m. Monday. One victim, was shot in the chest and the right arm and the other victim, was hit in the chest. Both were rushed to area hospitals and reported to be in stable condition."

"One witness, a student at Howard who asked to remain anonymous said, 'When I heard the three shots, it sounded like they were in my room so I looked out the window to see what appeared to be a man running down the street next to the dorm.'" ...

"This incident is just one of many that occur on campus. In late November a male student was robbed at gunpoint and pistol-whipped outside of Carver Hall. ..." ...

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Submitter's Note: But, but, but guns are banned in the District!
 

Guns, bullies and media
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"It would be easy to suggest that the primary response to the latest school shooting incident ...should be a move to impose stricter controls on access to guns."

"And that is certainly what the National Rifle Association and other advocates for the gun industry fear. ..." ...

"All of the factors that created the crisis at Red Lake ought to be considered: the availability of guns, the failure of schools to protect children from bullies and threats, the warping role that media play in the shaping of young minds."

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KABA Note: Everything but his guardian's responsibility to notice the kid's obvious problems, get him help if he needed it, monitor his Internet habits or pay a bit of attention to his disturbing behavior.
 

OH: Thieves Break Down Wall, Steal 11 Guns From Store
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"Officials said 11 guns were stolen during the robbery of a gun store in Colerain Township Thursday."

"At about 2 a.m., officials received a call to investigate an intrusion alarm at the Sportsman's Gallery on Pippin Road. Officers determined that the thief or thieves entered a vacant neighboring business, removed dry wall and broke a hole through a cinder block, gaining access to the gun shop." ...

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Submitter's Note: But don't criminals just buy their guns at gun shows? Wouldn't closing the gun show loophole solve this problem? /sarcasm
 

UK: Gun collector avoids jail term
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft
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"A GUN collector who did not know one of his air weapons was banned has escaped a jail sentence."

"Liverpool crown court heard David Fitzgibbon, 45, was facing a mandatory five-year prison sentence for possessing an air pistol."

"But a judge decided there had not been enough publicity in a change in the law, which came into effect last year, and sentenced Fitzgibbon to 240 hours' community punishment."

"[Police] found a Brocock ME38 compact pistol and Fitzgibbon told officers he was not aware it had become unlawful to have the air weapon." ...

"Simon Parrington, defending, told the court that Fitzgibbon's pistol had never been used and was missing a pump needed to activate the weapon."
 

NE: Customization pays off for Fremont pistolsmith
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft
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"Most handgun enthusiasts buy a factory-made weapon out of a store showcase, load it with ammunition and are ready to fire it."

"Not Bill Laughridge's customers at Cylinder and Slide in Fremont."

"While he might never see some of his customers, who live all across the country, he does know what they like and assembles handguns to their specifications. He also modifies handguns with custom parts to fit a shooter's needs."

"During the more than 30 years Laughridge has been assembling custom handguns, he has made an art out of it."

"That dedication to his clients, his skill at assembling and customizing pistols, ethics and contribution to professional gunsmithing earned him more than just loyal customers."

"At the annual American Pistolsmith Guild meeting earlier this year he was chosen as Pistolsmith of the Year." ...
 

PA: Governor announces anti-violence task force
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"Gov. Ed Rendell on Thursday announced the formation of a short-term task force to investigate a recent surge in the city's homicide rate."

"...Rendell said he is appointing Walter Phillips Jr., chairman of the state's Commission on Crime and Delinquency, to head the task force. The group will include representatives from the Legislature, the Pennsylvania League of Cities and Street's administration."

"Scheduled to convene April 1, the task force will have 45 days to investigate a spate of violence that has brought the number of homicides in the city this year to 85, compared to 63 at this time last year. Sixty-seven of those homicides were committed with a gun..."
 

PA: Murdered Woman Feared for Her Life
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"A woman who was shot to death Wednesday in Lycoming County told friends she thought she was in danger. She even reported her fears to police."

"According to police, Joseph McCloskey, 36, murdered his girlfriend Christine Montgomery, shooting her with a rifle at close range Wednesday afternoon."
 

TN: Guns, bars a bad mix in Tennessee
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"With the future of TennCare and, by extension, the budget still up in the air, what’s a Tennessee lawmaker to do with all that extra time?"

"Simple. Pass a bill to allow pistol-packin’ Mommas and Poppas to carry their guns in bars. Hooray. The state is saved."

"Here in the real world, this was an ill-conceived measure last year and it’s still bad law today. ..."
 

FBI director forming group to study gun law
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"FBI Director Robert Mueller is forming a study group to review the law that let suspected terrorists buy guns in the United States after they cleared background checks."

"Mueller unveiled his plan to form the Justice Department working group, which will include the FBI, in a letter sent Wednesday to Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J. The group will also review the government report issued earlier this month that said more than 40 terror suspects were able to buy firearms in the United States last year because background checks showed they had no felony convictions and weren't illegal immigrants."
 

WA: Store Security Guard Shoots Self Twice In Leg
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"Seattle police are investigating how an off-duty officer working security at a grocery store shot himself in the leg -- twice."

"Spokesman Sean Whitcomb says the officer was adjusting his gun in the holster Wednesday night when it fired. It's unclear if there was some mechanical malfunction or mistake."
 

FL: NRA-backed self-defense bill needs some changes, but could work
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"Critics of Senate Bill 436 call it a Wild West proposal."

"They say it could return Florida to a day when disagreements are all too often settled on the spot with firearms."

"Proponents say the bill is only about giving law abiding persons the right to defend themselves and others, in situations where they have clear reason to fear they are about to be killed or seriously hurt."

"And it especially applies during home invasions and apparent carjackings and the like."

"Well, this could almost be one of the few times I get to side with the National Rifle Association."
 

Steve Chapman: The odd silence after the school shootings
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"It came on the heels of some other publicized eruptions of gun violence--including a rampage by a defendant at an Atlanta courthouse and a mass shooting at a worship service in a Milwaukee suburb. In the past, any of these might have spurred gun-control advocates into a major push for action. But this time, not much has happened, and not much is likely to."

"Why not? One simple reason is that Congress and the White House are both in the hands of Republicans, who generally aren't eager to impose restrictions on firearms. But maybe the Republicans are in power partly because of the new mood that has settled over the issue of gun violence."

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Another alleged "journalist" who thinks more laws are the answer and guns are to blame. Email him at: schapman@tribune.com
 

John Lott: If Gun Background Checks Don't Work, Will 'Watch Lists' Be Any More Effective?
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"Should people lose rights because they are sympathetic to, but do not actually help, terrorist groups? Should law enforcement be the arbiter of those sympathizers who should be placed on 'watch lists'?" ...

"Ultimately, though, despite all the fears generated, background checks simply aren’t the solution. The Federal Brady Act has been in effect for 11 years and state background checks even longer. But despite all the academic research that has been done, a recent National Academy of Sciences report could not find any evidence -- not a single published academic study -- that background checks reduce any type of violent crime."

"Surely, it would be nice if these regulations worked. But it's hard to believe they will be any more successful stopping terrorists. Criminals and terrorists share a lot in common, starting with the fact that what they are doing is illegal. In addition, terrorists are probably smarter and engage in vastly more planning than your typical criminal, thus making the rules even less likely to be successful."
 

PA: State gun help?
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"WHEN Gov. Ed and Mayor Street come out of their meeting today on stemming gun violence and say whatever it is they say, there's a little something everyone should keep in mind."

"There'll be no help from the state Legislature."

"Forget common sense arguments about how restricting gun purchases helps get guns off city streets without hurting hunters or how allowing the city its own gun laws impact the rest of the state."

"When it comes to guns, Pennsylvania is beyond common sense. It's in the ionosphere. Its opposition to gun control, any gun control, is legendary and ongoing. It knows neither compromise nor retreat."
 

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Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. — THOMAS PAINE

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