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SAF Observes 232nd Anniversary of Lexington, Concord Battles
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Thursday, April 19 marks the 232nd anniversary of the battles of Lexington and Concord that started the American Revolution with the 'Shot Heard Round the World,' and the Second Amendment Foundation notes that the aftermath of this week's events in Virginia clearly show that European animosity toward our right to keep and bear arms still exists."

"In the wake of the horrible tragedy at Virginia Tech, noted SAF founder Alan M. Gottlieb, European media -- and particularly the BBC -- has bared its visceral disdain toward America's Second Amendment and the traditions of liberty and independence it represents and protects." ...
 

Virginia Tech Case Proves Bloomberg Lies About Gun Trace Data Access
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"It took less than 24 hours for authorities to trace two handguns used by Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui, proving that New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg is lying when he claims that legitimate law enforcement access to trace data is being blocked by federal law, the [CCRKBA] said today."

"CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb noted that Bloomberg's campaign to undo federal legislation that prevents 'fishing expedition access' to gun trace data from the [BATFE] has just been shown to be based on 'fabrication and falsehood.'"

"'Local police, working with the BATFE, were able to trace both handguns quickly, even though Hui apparently filed off the serial numbers from both guns,' Gottlieb noted ..." ...
 

Debate: gun control vs. gun advocates
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"The massacre of 32 people at Virginia Tech has galvanized both ends of the gun-control debate."

"Gun-control proponents seized the opportunity to argue that the shooting rampage by a 23-year-old student at the university proves that stricter laws are necessary - and could have kept two 9 mm handguns out of the killer's hands."

"But gun advocates countered that his actions have no bearing on legal gun ownership."

"Rather, they argue that the shootings demonstrate the need for freer application of the Second Amendment right to bear arms, suggesting that a campus 'gun-free zone' policy allowed the shooter to fatally shoot innocent students and staffers unhindered." ...
 

Why The NRA Gets Its Way
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"The National Rifle Association has money, motivated members and powerful allies in Congress. But what puts the NRA in a separate class among interest groups is its track record of defeating incumbents."

"In Washington, that is real power." ...
 

FLASHBACK: Virginia Tech student implores officials to allow self-defense; gets rebuffed
Submitted by: Buckeye Firearms Association
Website: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org

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"The April 16 massacre wasn't the first shooting scare at Virginia Tech this college year. Nor are emerging questions over whether or not students should be allowed to bear arms for self-defense new."

"In August, 2006, police conducted an extensive search for an murderous escaped convict on university grounds."

"On August 31, VT graduate student Bradford B. Wiles wrote an eerily prophetic commentary about his experience that day:" ...

"Wiles' commentary was responded to in an op-ed written by Larry Hincker, Assoc. Vice President of University Relations at Virgina Tech."

"WARNING: In light of the April 16 massacre, Hincker's snide, ignorant and insensitive commentary will be extremely disturbing to some. ..." ...
 

Cho Seung-Hui May Be 9th School Shooter Under Influence of Psychiatric Drugs -- Documented to Cause Homicidal Ideation, Suicide, Psychosis, Mania and Hostility
Submitted by: MTrcic

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"In the wake of yesterday's shooting rampage at Virginia Tech by gunman Cho Seung-Hui, state legislators, civic and human rights activists are asking why Congress has failed to investigate the link between psychiatric drugs and school violence, given the high rate of psychiatric drug use by the shooters. According to breaking news from investigators at Virginia Tech, Cho may have taken depression drugs—documented by the Food and Drug Administration to cause suicidal behavior, mania, psychosis, hallucinations, hostility and 'homicidal ideation.' (link [.pdf]) If Cho Seung-Hui’s psychiatric drug use is confirmed, it would bring the total to 61 killed and 77 wounded by psychiatric drug-induced school shootings." ...
 

"No Guns" Policy Ignored by Virginia Tech Shooter (OFCC)
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Today is truly a sad day due to the tragedy that took place earlier as the quiet campus of Virginia Tech reverberated with gunshots. The shootings began about 7:15 AM and continued for several hours before the unnamed gunman took his own life. The death toll currently stands at thirty-one ..." ...

"While the nation mourns this immense loss of innocent life, we must realize that two ways exist for looking at these terrible events. The manner that we choose will dictate how to best move forward. I wonder which will prevail:"

"Option 1: Cries of 'We do not have enough gun control!' ..." ...

"Option 2: Stop enacting roadblocks for law-abiding citizens that merely desire the means to defend themselves. ..." ...
 

Hmmmmmmmmm.......
Submitted by: GunShowOnTheNet.com
Website: http://GunShowOnTheNet.com/

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"The following article was forwarded to me by a man whom is a church Pastor and a regular commentator on Keep and Bear Arms..."

"...September 17, 2002"

"After two armed southwest Virginia law students stopped a campus shooting rampage in January, a Second Amendment group at a northern Virginia law school decided it was time to change their own school's ban on guns...."

"...But looking into GMU's gun policy, Jowyk found to his dismay that the school's board of visitors had in 1995 passed a ban on all weapons, concealed or otherwise, except by law enforcement officials..."

"...Recently, the Virginia Legislature again had the opportunity to correct this travesty of justice. Yet, refused to do so..."
 

Cragg Hines willfully garbles the Second Amendment
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Whenever I’m in need of good blogging material, I can always count on good ‘ol Cragg Hines and his unsupported rantings. In the wake of the Virginia Tech shooting, his latest target is (naturally) the Second Amendment:"

"Ah, our old friend, the poor, put upon Second Amendment. As Chief Justice Warren E. Burger said in retirement: 'The subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word, fraud, on the American public by special interest groups … .'"

"Burger went on, in a NewsHour interview on Dec. 16, 1991, to specify the National Rifle Association, as well as to call himself 'a gun man' who had hunted since boyhood."


"... If you look at his comments in context, though, he said a great deal more than that ..." ...
 

Is Media, Culture to Blame for Va. Tech Shootings?
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"As the nation mourns over the recent tragedy that befell students at Virginia Tech, people from around the United States have tried to explain the reasons and motivations that could have led to the shootings ..." ...

"With all the increased talk about how culture influences the lives of children, many people are condemning such speech. They feel that people are taking advantage of the tragedy to push their political agendas ..."

"'These groups, that so quickly have tried to politicize Virginia Tech's sorrow and loss, have a well-documented history of shamelessly dancing in the blood of crime victims to advance their agenda,' said Alan Gottlieb ... 'Such deplorable behavior should not be forgotten by the American public.'" ...
 

One Time to Save a Life (BFA)
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"The establishment media's immediate vilification of guns whenever a mass shooting happens means they forget that it only takes only one person with a concealed handgun license to stop a killer. They also refuse to accept that despite the leftist anti-gunners cries to the contrary, when someone resists with a gun the death toll in these cases is much lower."

"Every single one of the spree killings with the highest death toll have one thing in common, nobody was there with a gun during the early stages of the event to challenge the coward. Yet, in the case of the Pearl, Mississippi School shooting, the Alrosa Villa shooting in Columbus, Ohio and the Appalachian Law School tragedy someone was there to stop the murderer and the death toll was lessened." ...
 

Poll: Tougher Handgun Laws?
Submitted by: G. Hughes

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Poll in the middle of the page:

Is it too easy for the average citizen to purchase a handgun in America?

Yes
No
 

Student Wrote About Death and Spoke in Whispers, But No One Imagined What Cho Seung Hui Would Do
Submitted by: Mike Hoskinson

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"They met across the professor's desk. One on one. The chairman of the English department and the silent, brooding student who never took his sunglasses off."

"He had so upset other instructors that Virginia Tech officials asked whether the professor wanted protection. ..." ...
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Submitter's Note: Look at all the indicators that people missed - or IGNORED - about the shooter!

... and still people act shocked that it happened, ask why it happened ...

... and blame inanimate objects.
 

Another fascist maggot crawls out of the Roanoke Times woodwork [strong language]
Submitted by: Nicki Fellenzer
Website: http://www.libertyzone.blogspot.com

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"... I'm in a mood where I need to eviscerate someone today. This guy qualifies as a pinata." ...

"No matter how much mayhem and tragedy may be caused by gun violence in the United States, such costs are more than an acceptable trade-off for many people who are determined to preserve 'the right to keep and bear arms.'" ...


"And no matter how many commonsense facts you throw at assclowns such as this, they will never understand that criminals do not obey laws, that gun laws do not serve any 'public safety' purpose whatsoever ..." ...
 

Intemperate Thoughts
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"First ... some thoughts on the Virginia Tech shootings."

"I've heard from the parents of some Virginia Tech students. They're tired of the media presence on their campus. They want them to leave. ..."

"How far have we advanced in the wussification of America? I am now under attack by the left for wondering aloud why these students did so little to defend themselves. It seems that standing in terror waiting for your turn to be executed was the right thing to do, and any questions as to why 25 students didn't try to rush and overpower Cho Seung-Hui are just examples of right wing maniacal bias. Surrender -- comply -- adjust. The doctrine of the left." ...
 

Virginia Tech Murders Gives GOP Candidates Chance to Prove Gun Rights Credentials
Submitted by: Michigan Gun Owners
Website: http://www.migunowners.org

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"Forget sporting a hunting rifle and camouflage flak jacket -- Republican candidates wanting to prove their credibility with the gun rights lobby may have that opportunity as the Virginia Tech murders this week begin reviving a national debate over gun laws." ...

"Comments Tuesday by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., may foreshadow the tension to come. He urged lawmakers to 'take a deep breath' and not rush into anything, during a briefing with reporters."

"'Let's wait for the facts to come in before we jump to conclusions about what we could have done, what we should have done,' he said, 'or what we will do.'"
 

More Gun Laws or Fewer Idiots?
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Dan Brown at the Huffington Post writes that there are only two ways to go on the Virginia Tech killings. ... - either citizens will be encouraged to spy on each other and report suspicious behavior - the paranoid response, he calls it - or, we tighten up gun laws that allow people to get as many guns as they want whenever they want it."

"Talk about false alternatives. Would you really have to have been paranoid to have stopped some one like Cho Seung-Hui?"

"Some left anarchists (as well as adherents of the old right, like Pat Buchanan) argue that you would just need to have been armed. In 2002 the Appalachian Law School shooting, also in Virginia, resulted in only three deaths because it was stopped by armed students." ...
 

OH: Reaction to VT Massacre: Plain Dealer gets it wrong...again
Submitted by: Buckeye Firearms Association
Website: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org

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"The Cleveland Plain Dealer is at it again. The headline warns 'In Ohio, it's really easy to buy a gun'. But the 'facts' presented in the story (as per usual when it comes to this newspaper's coverage of gun-related news) are worth examining." ...
 

Guns Kill People. Period.
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"This writing is not going to earn me any Christmas card from the zealots at the National Rifle Association or best wishes from the unyielding adherents to the Second Amendment."

"Guns kill people. Period."

"The tragedy at Virginia Tech should open our minds to a problem our nation refuses to confront. The easy access to guns and lethal weapons is a national disgrace." ...
 

One more rampage, same weapon of choice
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Details of the shootings on the Virginia Tech campus on Monday have unfolded to confirm that the gunman was a U.S. resident originally from South Korea. He is Cho Seung-hui, who killed 32 people and then himself in the worst campus carnage in U.S. history." ...

"On November 1, 1991, just up the hill from my office, Lu shot to death one fellow Chinese, three professors and an administrator, and critically wounded an undergraduate student, leaving her a paraplegic, before killing himself." ...

"Ultimately, however, what enabled both campus killers to cut down other human beings was the easy accessibility of guns in the United States." ...
 

America's gun psychosis
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"The thing is, they're out there, just heartbeats away from going to pieces and pulling the trigger, again and again and again and again until there is bloodshed and death beyond imagining."

"Here are Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, on their way to school one Colorado morning. Here is Colin Ferguson, boarding the evening LIRR after a bad day at his job. Here is Cho Sueng-hui, lost in psychotic fantasies and still able to buy ammo and a Glock 9-mm. pistol from a Virginia gun shop because that's how Virginia voters appear to believe the world should work." ...
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KABA Note: And the thread linking these three events is that all of the victims were disarmed by law!
 

Easy loader
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"The Virginia Tech madman was able to buy a powerful Glock 19 handgun and 50 rounds of ammunition in a routine quick sale at a Roanoke gun shop five weeks ago, the store owner said yesterday."

"Cho Seung-Hui purchased the 9mm Glock, one of the weapons he used in Monday's rampage, for $571 after presenting three forms of ID, said John Markell, owner of Roanoke Firearms. 'It was a very unremarkable sale,' said Markell. 'He was a nice, clean-cut college kid. We won't sell a gun if we have any idea at all that a purchase is suspicious.'" ...
 

I'll Give You the Second Amendment If You Give Me the Rest Back
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Dinesh D'Souza says that people concerned about the constitution should also be concerned about protecting the second amendment. Then he makes a vague reference to being kind of in favor of the other amendments, too, but I guess since he's a conservative, he's not so sure these days."

"I'll make you a deal. You give me the rest of the amendments back that Bush has gutted and I'll gladly give you the second amendment. ..."

"You give me all of those back and then some, and you can have your lousy second amendment. America is a little sick in the head with guns. The NRA believes we should have unfettered access to all firearms and doesn't believe there is any downside. That is so wildly disingenuous." ...
 

Armed, angry
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"A shocked world has responded to the horrific massacre committed Monday by senior Cho Seung-Hui on the campus of Virginia Tech." ...

"Why can the world agree on America's problem when it comes to guns and violence, yet we remain mired in inaction? We're so fearful of losing our right to bear arms that we're willing to shoulder the price of occasional random acts of violence from gangs and anger-filled loners. It makes no sense, especially since these acts aren't so random anymore." ...
 

Lax gun laws to blame for Virginia shooting
Submitted by: Dave McPhail

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"I am a full-time community college student. The Virginia Tech shooting doesn't scare me - it just makes me sad. If the gunman hadn't had such ample access to either guns or ammunition, the death toll probably would have been lower or possibly nonexistent."

"Every time a school shooting happens, the media, the victims' families and the general public look for reasons and people to blame. We should all start by blaming ourselves."

"There's no reason for a person to carry a gun unless he is a government official, a hunter in a rural area or a criminal. There is no reason a person should be able to buy as much ammunition as he wants, especially for weapons such as pistols. These lax laws are keeping this country in danger of its own citizens." ...
 

Shooting Rekindles Issues of Gun Rights and Restrictions
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"Five weeks ago, a Virginia Tech student walked into a nondescript gun store next to a pawn shop in Roanoke, Va., and paid $571 for a Glock 9-millimeter handgun and a box of ammunition."

"On Monday, the student, Cho Seung-Hui, made a horrible kind of history by using that gun and another pistol to go on a murderous rampage at the university, in Blacksburg, Va., before taking his own life." ...

"But this unremarkable purchase by Mr. Cho is drawing attention to Virginia's gun laws, which some gun-control advocates described as lax. The purchase has prompted calls from several Democrats and at least one leading presidential candidate, John Edwards, for measures to restrict gun sales, even as they proclaimed their support for the Second Amendment." ...
 

Yet another massacre, and still the gun lobby wants easy access to weapons
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"In one of those odd coincidences of timing, the National Rifle Association held its annual convention over the weekend in St. Louis." ...

"But while the NRA worries about gun-control laws, on Monday 32 people lay dead in Virginia in the worst shooting rampage in modern U.S. history. The gunman, a 23-year-old senior at Virginia Tech, Cho Seung-Hui, then killed himself."

"And the NRA? It expressed condolences on its Web site, but said it would have no comment until all the facts were known."

"The slaughter of so many has people debating gun control and how to keep classrooms the safe places they should be. ..." ...
 

Bloomberg To Fund Anti-Gun Ad Campaign
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"Mayor Michael Bloomberg and a coalition of 214 mayors are using the Virginia Tech massacre to pressure Congress to give local cops the information they need to trace illegal guns used in crimes."

"CBS 2 has also learned that they're also launching a TV ad campaign starting Sunday."

"'We're fighting criminals and illegal guns. Why is Congress fighting us?' Bloomberg said Wednesday." ...
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KABA Note: Perhaps because you used that data to sue legitimate manufacturers of a legal and highly controlled product for the illegal actions by third parties?
 

NRA cartoon of NYC mayor raises concerns
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"A National Rifle Association magazine cover depicting New York mayor and gun control campaigner Michael Bloomberg as an octopus is raising questions because the imagery has a history as an anti-Semitic symbol."

"The cover of this month's issue of the NRA publication America's 1st Freedom features an evil-looking cartoon of the Jewish mayor, with a headline warning: 'Tentacles!'"

"The eight-armed sea animal has been used as the Nazi representation of Jewish conspiracy and control ..." ...

"[NRA spokeswoman Ashley Varner] said the cover caption explains why the octopus image was used. It reads: 'How NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg extends his reach and his illegal anti-gun tactics across America.'" ...
 

2008 candidates on spot over gun-control
Submitted by: G. Hughes

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"Gun control has been treated with a mix of silence and discomfort in the presidential campaign, a stance that may become insupportable once the nation finds its voice in the aftermath of the Virginia Tech mass murder."

"Democrats have been deliberately muted for months on an issue that, by their own reckoning, contributed to and perhaps sealed their defeat in the 2000 presidential election. ..." ...
 

NY: Mayor Treads Softly After Shooting
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"Mayor Michael Bloomberg stood at a waste-transfer station on Staten Island, surrounded by garbage, to unveil the first step in his new-and-improved plan to cart trash out of the city."

"It had been more than 24 hours since a South Korean student went on a shooting spree at Virginia Tech, killing 32 students and then himself. It was the worst such incident in American history. The Mayor, one of the nation’s most outspoken—and richest—gun-control advocates, still hadn't commented." ...
 

OH: Unarmed Ohio campus security guards - and they'll stay that way (BFA)
Submitted by: Buckeye Firearms Association
Website: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org

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"While college campuses across the country examine their security procedures in the wake of the VT massacre, most campus security experts are stressing that while they try to plan for all contingencies, there really is no way to prevent one lone predator with a death wish from wreaking havoc on a college campus."

"But one Ohio college dean thinks she has the answer to a heavily armed criminal with intent on murdering as many people as possible: martial arts training!" ...
 

NJ: Healy hosting mayors to call for info on guns
Submitted by: Anonymous

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"The big guns are coming to Jersey City."

"New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Boston Mayor Thomas Menino will join Jersey City Mayor Jerramiah T. Healy and others today at City Hall to speak against a law that limits what information cities can get about guns seized by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives."

"Scheduled for 12:30 p.m., the event will focus on the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts cities and police from accessing and using ATF data from guns recovered in crimes."

"This information, the mayors argue, could help cities clamp down on gun dealers making illegal sales and understand regional gun trafficking patterns." ...
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KABA Note: To say nothing of making those frivolous lawsuits easier!
 

CA: Judge derails challenge to ban on guns on Alameda County property
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"A federal judge dismissed a lawsuit brought by two gun show promoters that challenged an Alameda County ordinance that bans possession of guns on county property."

"Russell and Sallie Nordyke brought the suit against the county because the ordinance outlawed their gun shows at the county's fairgrounds in Pleasanton."

"... the Alameda County Board of Supervisors approved the ordinance in 1999, right after a shooting incident at the fair on July 4, 1998 resulted in eight people getting shot." ...

"... U.S. District Judge Martin J. Jenkins ruled that the ordinance is part of a legitimate government interest, which in this case is promoting public safety." ...
 

AR: Pro-gun advocacy group started in Arkansas
Submitted by: The Citizens Journal
Website: http://thecitizensjournalblog.blogspot.com/

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"Conservative radio personality Dave Elswick and two concealed carry instructors announced today on KARN news radio that a new gun owners group entitled, the Arkansas Concealed Carry Association is being formed to better push legislation on behalf of gun owners in the state.
This was largely due to the failure of the Arkansas legislature to pass the Stand Your ground law here in Arkansas during the last session. The Arkansas Prosecuting Attorney's Association lobbied heavily against the bill and thus the bill never even made it out of committee." ...
 

New Zealand: Your views: More on the shooting
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"I am an American. I am a Patriot. I applaud anyone in the world that has a viewpoint on this tragedy. I chastise anyone that attacks anyone else's free opinion given freely. We Americans are a violent people. We cannot get around that fact whatever the cause or history behind it. ... Gun control has been a problem since we stopped needing to hunt for our dinner(which was not that long ago in our cultural memory). The problem with guns is particularly handguns. The only thing handguns are used for is to kill other human beings, period. If anyone tells you different, they are lying. ..." ...
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Submitter's Note: Good to know that Mr. Wister believes police officers' sole purpose is to kill suspects.
 

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