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Who Killed Our Kids?
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"I don't think any parent who has ever sent a child off to college got through the day on Monday, April 16th, without a lump of ice forming in their guts. ... I'm surprised [mine] didn't melt, given the heat of my rage."

"In answer to the question, 'Who killed our kids?' we were ultimately shown a photo of a psychotic — Seung-Hui Cho. But as I looked at Cho, I saw the same thing I have seen when viewing terrorists: pale, shadowy figures behind him, rank upon rank; — facilitators — those who laid the field, smoothed the path, and provided the opportunity for mass murder, those who disarmed the victims in advance of their killer’s arrival ... they’re still in power, creating more 'killing zones.'" ...
 

Gun rights and the Federalist Papers
Submitted by: scott snyder

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"It's amazing the lack of historical knowledge many of our illuminated judges show when they rule that the Second Amendment is not an individual right but a collective one."

"Historical documents prove unequivocally exactly what the Second Amendment means." ...

"According to Hamilton in Federalist No. 29, written Jan. 10, 1788: Creating a militia 'will not only lessen the call for military establishments, but ... can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens ... who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens.'"

"This one piece of history proves that the right to own and bear arms was and always will be an individual right, which may be used collectively, when needed." ...
 

The Smoking Gun: NRA Admits it Does Not Support Criminal Background Checks for All Gun Sales
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Stop Handgun Violence, a non-profit organization dedicated to the prevention of gun violence, today released on-the-record quotes from a National Rifle Association (NRA) spokesperson confirming that the NRA does not support uniform background checks for all gun purchases or the use of the government's anti-terror watch list in precluding gun sales."

"The statements were made by NRA spokesperson Ashley Varner during a debate with Stop Handgun Violence Chairman, John Rosenthal, on WBZ-AM Radio’s 'Paul Sullivan Show.'" ...
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Submitter's Note: John Rosenthal, founder of Stop Handgun Violence conspired to commit a federal felony with Boston Globe columnist Steve Bailey in November of 2005 at a gun show in NH.
 

TX: Deputies: Homeowner Shoots Drunken Intruder
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"A homeowner shot a man who broke into his Atascocita home early Tuesday, officials told KPRC Local 2."

"Harris County Precinct 4 deputy constables said the homeowner's wife heard a noise outside their home on Devlin Drive near Match Play Drive at about 2:45 a.m."

"Detectives said the man, who is partially blind and hearing impaired, appeared to be intoxicated."

"The man claimed the home was his and argued with the homeowner, officials said."

"'The homeowner discharged one round from a shotgun with a birdshot, giving the intruder a superficial wound to the side of the head,' Lt. Michael Young said."

"Deputies said the man lives in the area and this was not the first time he has entered a wrong house." ...
 

NC: Store clerk shoots, kills robbery suspect
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"A clerk on Monday shot and killed a man trying to rob a northeast Charlotte convenience store, police say, in the fourth case this month of a potential victim shooting a would-be robber."

"It happened about 10 a.m. at Charlotte Fast Mart Food & Beverage Store on Tom Hunter Road, near the Interstate 85-Sugar Creek Road interchange in the Hidden Valley neighborhood."

"A man entered the store, said he had a gun and demanded money, Charlotte-Mecklenburg police said. The clerk confronted the man and shot him once as he lunged toward her at the counter, police said. Officers who responded found the man lying inside the front door. He was pronounced dead at the scene." ...
 

TN: Unicoi Murder Suicide
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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A man and a woman have been found dead at a home in Erwin, Tennessee. Police believe that it may be a murder-suicide.

It happened around 9 a.m. Monday morning at a home on Lattie Miller Road.

Police say 61-year old Lattie Miller shot his estranged wife, 46-year old Karen Denise Miller, and then turned the gun on himself.

Denise Miller had a restraining order against her husband. Police say Lattie Miller had been in jail once before for domestic violence.

The bodies were found in the back patio near a pool.
 

Brady Campaign Sounding Very Nervous over DC Gun Ban Case!
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"The absolute worst nightmare of any gun control group is having the United States Supreme Court re-affirm that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution recognizes an individual right. ... if the Supreme Court (correctly) rules that the Second Amendment is an individual right – that places the Second Amendment back on the same legal footing as the First Amendment. In short, abridging an individuals right to keep and bear arms would become as Constitutionally abhorrent as saying someone couldn't go to a Baptist, or a Lutheran, or a Mormon, or a Catholic Church."

"In short, everything the gun control lobby has tried to do for the past half century unravels ..." ...
 

David Codrea: A Missed Bulls-Eye, Indeed
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"In a YouTube video, a Michigan man brandished an automatic rifle, saying 'This is my baby. Are you going to protect my baby?'" ...
"'Authorized journalist' Steve Terrell did get one thing right ... Gov. Richardson missed a great opportunity."

"He should have chastised the questioner for performing an agenda-driven stunt. He should have demanded the guy's background be looked into, to see if he was really a gun rights advocate or a mole from the other side trying to make gun owners look like lunatics. He should have also chastised CNN for allowing a question designed to push so many buttons through without also allowing for a rational question about the rights and responsibilities of gun ownership ..." ...
 

NV: Nevada Gun-Buyers May Face More Background Checks
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"The state Legislature's failure to pass a bill may mean that the 25,000 Nevadans with concealed weapons permits may have to undergo a federal background check every time they buy a gun."

"For years the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms has exempted Nevada permit holders from paying $25 and undergoing a check with each gun purchase. Now the government is threatening to scrap that exemption."

"Anyone without a concealed weapons permit must pay $25 for a federal background investigation when they buy a firearm. But those with permits have been exempted because they undergo background checks when they get their state license." ...
 

OH: Gun law change draws fire Proposal would ease self-defense rules in Ohio
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"A proposal that seeks to change Ohio's policy regarding self-defense has a few anti-gun organizations up in arms."

"Currently in Ohio, if you shoot an intruder in your home, by law you must prove self-defense to avoid charges."

"State Sen. Steve Buehrer wants to change that. If someone threatens you and you kill them, Buehrer said police could investigate and prosecute. In order to avoid prison time and lawsuits, you would be forced to prove your life was in implicit danger - a policy that the senator said 'is outrageous.'"

"'People want to feel comfortable in their homes and in their communities,' said Buehrer, a Republican from Delta. 'This is about allowing people to take the necessary steps in a potentially life-threatening situation.'" ...
 

NY: City's firearm law can make gun dealers pay for mayhem
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"The funeral of Officer Russel Timoshenko last week ... served as yet another stark reminder that New York City still suffers from gun violence."

"But his tragic death should also remind us that our police officers and citizens are constantly being put at risk by unscrupulous gun dealers in other states ..." ...

"Three years ago, the mayor signed into law a bill ... that allows any New Yorker to bring a civil suit against a gun dealer who, through his own recklessness, allows a gun to be used illegally in the commission of a crime."

"The ... Act set about a code of responsible conduct ..."

"It says dealers should not sell multiple guns to any one customer all at once, and that shops must keep detailed records of their transactions." ...
 

NY: New weapons law turns up the 'heat'
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"Ja Rule and Lil Wayne's timing couldn't be worse."

"If yesterday's gun charges stick, the pair will be subject to penalties from a law passed last year that throws thugs in prison for a mandatory 31/2-year minimum if they're caught possessing an illegal loaded gun."

"Gone - supposedly - are the golden days of packing heat, when rappers like Busta Rhymes could cop to possessing a loaded weapon and get a no-jail, 5-year probation deal, as he did in 1999."

"Busta kept his freedom by convincing a Manhattan judge that he kept a loaded .45 in his Mercedes because he feared for his life after an armed robbery - an argument that would fall on deaf ears today." ...
 

IA: South Sioux's concealed carry law to get makeover
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
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"City Attorney Wayne Boyd told the City Council Monday that the city's 1975 law banning the carrying of concealed handguns, 'boot' knives, long-bladed pocket knives, brass knuckles and other weapons, is in conflict with the new state law which went into effect on Jan. 1. He recommended it either be repealed in its entirety or that its language regarding revolvers and pistols be reworked to be compatible with the state statute."

"Police Chief Scot Ford told the council he'd prefer to see the city's concealed carry ordinance revised because the state law doesn't address weapons other than handguns." ...
 

MD: New Baltimore Plan Shines Light on Criminals
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"Baltimore could become the first big city to publicize names, photographs and home addresses of people who are convicted of shootings or other gun-related crimes, the latest twist on a national crime prevention trend of exposing names of certain types of criminals."

"Legislation that Mayor Sheila Dixon introduced in the City Council last week would direct the Police Department to create a database for gun offenders that is similar to the existing online statewide sex offender list.
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Submitter's Note: Think this might add more to the demonizing of guns and gunowners...even if the pictures posted are "real criminals'?
 

The Latest on our fight (Red's Trading Post)
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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... "The ATF has resorted to a smear campaign on my character to present before the judge, they are now spinning the fact that I wrote a recap of the events on our blog of the last visit: ..."

"My point was to show the excess spending of the ATF ... I was merely pointing out that they were flying in 2 inspectors and a Supervisor from out of state to cover 3 weeks worth of paperwork. ... I was pointing out that it was one of the nicest hotels in our community that they were staying."

"The person in question who photographed them was a 70 year old man in a Hawaiian shirt who is balding (Sorry, Al) and has a broken foot. Yet 3 inspectors felt that they were in danger. ..." ...
 

All eyes are watching!! (Red's Trading Post)
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Many of our Idaho supporters had stated that they had heard a some kind of response from Senator Larry Craig, Congressman Mike Simpson and Congressman Bill Sali. Although I had been in contact with Senator Mike Crapo's staff, many had stated that they had not gotten a formal response."

"I wanted to assure you that I have been lately speaking with Senator Mike Crapo's Chief of Staff John Hoehne about what is going on across the nation with the ATF shutting down dealers at a break neck pace. Senator Crapo is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment and also a supporter of small businesses."

"Our representatives have been able to see first hand the relentless assaults by the ATF ..." ...
 

New ATF Tactic: INTIMIDATION (Red's Trading Post)
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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Many of my supporters have commented that when they have ran a story or blog about us on their website that they have received several hits from the Department of Justice. Their IP address is very clear that it is from the DOJ, which the ATF falls under the umbrella of.

One supporter noted that he thought that they would be a little more discreet about spending so much time on websites. The point is not to be covert, it is to let you know that they are watching. This is an attempt to "mark their territory".
 

David Codrea: Breaking News: BATFU Accuses Red's Of "Harassment And Intimidation"
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"I've been sitting on some facts for a few days at the request of Ryan Horsley. BATFU had threatened him that he needed to cease all blogging and keep their agents and inspectors free from being photographed or observed, or they would go to the judge and file a complaint of harassment. Ryan was in a dilemma--he has been single-handedly bearing the burden of his defense against a fe(de)ral government with practically unlimited resources--yet if he continued to allow his persecutors to operate in the dark, that is where they would kill Red's."

"The new complaint is calculated to be a death blow to Red's ..." ...
 

VA: Norfolk and visitor with a holstered .45 are tangled in a Catch-22
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Chester Szymecki Jr. was waiting for some music to start at Harborfest when a sheriff's deputy approached." ...

"Szymecki had ... a .45-caliber handgun in a holster on his belt."

"The deputy asked Szymecki whether he was a police officer. He said no. And then, he said, uniformed city police began closing in. They gave him a choice, he said: Leave the event or face arrest. When he tried to say that there must be a mistake, he was disarmed and led away, handcuffed, he recalled."

"Szymecki was charged with violating a local ordinance ... banning handguns and other weapons."

"There's just one problem: A few years ago, the General Assembly barred localities from enforcing laws governing the carrying of firearms. ..." ...
 

UT: Ex-UHP trooper charged with robbing motorists
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"A retired Utah Highway Patrol officer was charged Monday in Sevier County with posing as a trooper and robbing motorists he pulled over."

"Christopher Mark Topham, who worked as a UHP trooper from 1990 to 2003, faces eight first-degree felony counts ..."

"Topham allegedly posed as an officer on May 23 and stopped a driver on Interstate 70 near Richfield. He then allegedly stole money from the driver after asking to see his wallet and registration."

"On June 28, another driver complained that Topham stopped him on I-70 and stole money from his wallet and the wallet of a passenger in his car ..."

"The last complaint occurred June 30 when Topham allegedly stopped five men in a car and stole $9,000 from them." ...
 

WA: Officer charged with harassment
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"A Seattle police officer accused of threatening his ex-wife's boyfriend was charged with felony harassment Monday in Snohomish County Superior Court."

"Felton Miles, 53, was relieved from duty after the June 28 incident. His ex-wife said she has a restraining order against him."

"According to a police report, Miles showed up at his ex-wife's home unexpectedly. He shouted obscenities before bursting through the door ..."

"Miles' ex-wife told police she tried to stop him from coming inside but he shoved her out of the way and walked up to where her new boyfriend was sitting ... The boyfriend claimed Miles said, 'I should kill you!' before he left."

"Miles has been with the department 20 years ..."
 

MI: Police collect 120 guns in buyback
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"There are 120 fewer guns on the streets in the Kalamazoo area this morning after a three-day gun-buyback ..."

"According to a Kalamazoo Department of Public Safety release this morning, that number includes 68 handguns and 52 'long guns.'" ...

"Deputy Chief Mike McCaw said Monday police will attempt to determine the rightful owners of the firearms collected ... Firearms not reported stolen will eventually be ... destroyed ..."

"Public Safety Chief Dan Weston said the buyback makes the city safer. 'While it is impossible to know what violent crime(s) may be avoided because these firearms have been destroyed, we do know that these 120 weapons are no longer available to cause injury or death,' he said ..." ...
 

ID: Ada sheriff's sergeant charged with misdemeanor domestic battery
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"An Ada County Sheriff’s sergeant charged with misdemeanor domestic battery Saturday has been placed on administrative leave with pay while sheriff’s officials complete an internal investigation into the case." ...

"Meridian police were called to Olson's home ... about 9 a.m. Saturday for a 911 call to report a domestic fight."

"When officers arrived, they determined that there was some 'minor pushing and shoving' between Olson and his wife, and that Olson appeared to be the primary aggressor, so he was arrested ..."

"No one was injured in the dispute ..."

"Olson, who has worked for the sheriff's office for 14 years, will have a court hearing on the charge later this summer." ...
 

GA: Forsyth sheriff's officer charged with harassment
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A sergeant with the Forsyth County Sheriff's Office is on administrative leave after being arrested for allegedly making harassing telephone calls.

James Brandon Moore, of Winder, was arrested by Gwinnett County police July 10. He was released on $2,300 bond.

Capt. Frank Huggins, spokesman for the Forsyth County Sheriff's Office, said Moore was placed on administrative leave, pending the outcome of his criminal case and an internal investigation.

Details on the circumstances of Moore's arrest were not immediately available.
 

TX: SAPD Officer Charged With Aggravated Assault
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"A San Antonio police detective was charged Monday night with aggravated assault, resisting arrest and evading arrest." ...

"... Tamara Vaughan, 18, claimed Alfaro attacked her at a neighborhood pool in Northern Bexar County while he was off-duty."

"Vaughan said Alfaro beat her after she politely asked him to put out a cigar he was smoking at the pool."

"'He said, 'Are you seriously going to try and square me up on this,' Vaughan said. 'I said, 'yeah, can you put that out, there are kids and it's against the rules. Some have asthma and things like that.'"

"Vaughan claims Alfaro also made racial slurs."

"Vaughan said Alfaro threw her to the ground and repeatedly punched her on the head, neck, and chest." ...
 

Japan: Police officer dismissed for leaking information to P2P net in Japan
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"A computer in the care of an officer of the Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department has been found to have leaked around 6,600 sensitive case-related documents as a result of installing an unauthorised P2P package. The leaked documents included personal details of several hundred members of a prominent yakuza clan (ouch!). The officer has been dismissed, but that may be the least of his worries. Apparently, the documents were leaked via Winny, a Japanese P2P package that has become notorious as the source of confidential information leaks from government agencies including the Maritime Self Defence Force, All Nippon Airlines and more than one police department." ...
 

VA: Firing in Self Defense - Women and Gun Safety
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"The National Rifle Association estimates 6 million women own at least one gun." ...

"But experts say just having a gun isn't enough to protect yourself."

"Officer John Carey with the Lynchburg Crime Prevention unit points out, too many gun owners assume they know how to use the weapon."

"'They think they know everything there is to know about it and unfortunately that's when unsafe accidents happen,' says Carey."

"'You need to know how to use the gun. A little knowledge is dangerous,' says Ron Anderson of A & A Supply in Amherst."

"That's where this class comes in...for women only. Anderson decided to do the class after a woman came in to his store to buy a gun, too frightened to even walk up to the counter." ...
 

MD: Anti-gun money can buy misinformation
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Actually, Mr. Bob Zembower's letter of July 18 is the one that repeats propaganda."

"To start, with the help of deep-pocket anti-gun-owner foundations and institutional supporters, the U.S. anti-gun-owner complex easily spends more money than the NRA to push its agenda of banning private firearms ownership in the U.S. Contrary to Zembower's misinformation, the NRA gets its money solely from individual membership dues and donations, an amount dwarfed by the tens of millions of dollars shoveled out to anti-gun groups by a relatively few wealthy benefactors." ...

"Under Zembower's reasoning the First Amendment would not apply to the Internet, radio, or TV because they didn't exist in the 18th century. ..." ...
 

OH: Another Ohio editorial board member hopes to rescind the Second Amendment (BFA)
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"... another editorial board member in Ohio recently exercised his First Amendment rights to call for the revocation of your Second Amendment rights."

"Commentary by Buckeye Firearms Association's Chad Baus is in crimson." ...

"The violent, incomprehensible massacre at Virginia Tech keeps surfacing in my thoughts. ... Yet it seems that time heals. Few people surveyed are willing to change their present attitudes. Why are we willing to accept these tragedies so stoically?"

"Indeed, why does America continue to allow businesses, universities and public institutions to disarm law-abiding citizens, given evidence that 'the states with the fewest gun free zones have the greatest reductions killings, injuries, and attacks'?" ...
 

OH: NRA bringing national museum to Ohio! (BFA)
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"In cooperation with the Ohio National Guard, the Civilian Marksmanship Program, the Camp Perry Lodge and the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice, the NRA's National Firearms Museum is honored to present one of the finest displays of competitive arms and shooting accessories ever assembled."

"Thousands of visitors to the National Matches in Camp Perry will be able to look over a special traveling museum exhibit called 'Bugs, Bullets, and Bullseyes,' featuring 45 firearms used over the last century in National Match competition, as well as more than 100 shooting awards and other memorabilia associated with the National Matches."

"This exhibit is featured in the lobby of the Camp Perry Lodge ..." ...
 

LA: Want to use automatic weapons? Join the Army
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"... That is the second amendment in the Bill of Rights, and it basically means, 'We don't care if you have serious mental problems, here is your machine gun.'"

"OK, so the National Rifle Association is around to support the hunting and personal protection of firearm rights. OK, I have two things to say to that. Number one: Who goes out hunting deer and duck with a semi-automatic handgun or a machine gun? Want to hunt? Get a shotgun or, even better, bows and arrows."

"Number two: Protection. OK, I understand you want to protect yourself from people with guns attacking you. You know, you wouldn't need a gun to protect yourself if we didn't give guns out to anyone who will pay for one. Virginia Tech is proof of that." ...
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Submitter's Note: So a 5'1", 110 pound woman doesn't need a gun as long as her 6'5" 250 pound male attacker doesn't have one?
 

MS: Practical, tactical firearms training
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"The modern-day criminal element of society has access to and oftentimes employs high-capacity semi-automatic pistols and carbine rifles, while using every available cover — even hostages — in their attacks."

"So it's no wonder that law enforcement and responsible, gun-owning citizens would be interested in realistic target practice that involves the use of cover, fast shooting, quick reloading and even bad-guy targets with 'no-shoot hostages' nearby."

"For all of the above plus camaraderie with like-minded gun enthusiasts and a bit of healthy competition, the International Defensive Pistol Association was born." ...
 

Canada: Conservatives reject ban on handguns
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"Don't look to the federal Conservative government to ban handguns."

"Despite renewed calls for a national ban in the wake of the shooting death of 11-year-old Ephraim Brown in Toronto on the weekend, the Tory government is not swayed."

"'Effectively, there is already a ban on handguns in Canada. They are already extremely tightly controlled and are only available to those requiring them for employment purposes ..., legitimate target shooters, and approved collectors,' said a spokesperson for Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day."

"In addition to rejecting a handgun ban, the Conservative government wants to scrap the long-gun registry, saying it does nothing to keep guns out of the hands of the bad guys. ..." ...
 

Papua New Guinea: Gun culture's toll on PNG
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"The disappearance of 5,000 guns from police and military armouries in Papua New Guinea has added a dangerous element to crime in the country."

"High-powered factory-made weapons are now in the hands of tribal fighters and criminals, replacing more traditional bows and arrows and raising fears that existing tribal and gang conflicts may get even more deadly."

"In the highlands of Papua New Guinea, guns have become a part of life."

"For tribal fighters, conflicts with neighbouring clans over land disputes or women can last up to 30 years."

"But while the tribal wars have been around for centuries – the toll has risen dramatically since guns were added to more traditional weapons." ...
 

UK: City security guard jailed for killing disabled Old Age Pensioner
Submitted by: Bruce W. Krafft

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"A SECURITY guard was jailed for eight years today for killing a disabled grandfather who gave him a V-sign in the street." ...

"Mr Duffy died in agony four days after the attack ... He had been initially discharged from hospital after doctors failed to spot an internal injury."

"Lindsay ... was originally accused of murder but was convicted of culpable homicide following a trial last month."

"He leapt from his black 4x4 Mitsubishi and punched and kicked Mr Duffy after claiming the victim had 'stuck his fingers up' [Translation: 'flipped the bird']. There had been previous trouble between the two families, though Lindsay insisted that he only wanted to talk to Mr Duffy and was acting in self-defence." ...
 

UK: Party mood shattered as fight breaks out
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"THE last moments of James Dean’s life were shown on film as CCTV footage was used in the Royal Court for the first time." ...

"Mr Rouget ... is accused of murdering James Dean ... He denies the offence." ...

"Mr Rouget was heard to say 'come on then' and invite Mr Dean back."

"It was then that Mr Rouget was seen holding a knife, said Advocate Russell. Witnesses admitted to being shocked. ..."

"'Mr Dean, seemingly oblivious of the knife that Mr Rouget was holding, walked back towards him ...'"

"The men again grappled in the street, exchanging blows. During the struggle, Mr Dean was stabbed four times ... Both men fell to the ground and Mr Dean was seen to be striking Mr Rouget, she said." ...
 

 QUOTES TO REMEMBER
There is no doubt in my mind that millions of lives could have been saved if the people had not been "brainwashed" about gun ownership and they had been well armed. Hitler's thugs and goons were not very brave when confronted by a gun. Gun haters always want to forget the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, which is a perfect example of how a ragtag, half starved group of Jews took up 10 handguns and made asses out of the Nazi's. — Theodore Haas, former prisoner of the infamous Dachau prisoner concentration camp

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