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Documentary Spotlights Gun Rights Activists
Submitted by: David Codrea
Website: http://www.examiner.com/x-1417-Gun-Rights-Examiner

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"In late July I was contacted by Max Lemus, a young man traveling the country making a documentary about 'gun control,' working title 'Not Without a Fight.' He is recording interviews with selected activists involved in the gun rights struggle."

Catch a sneak preview here.
 

Free Plaxico Burress!
Submitted by: Larry

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"Although Wilt Alston has written a piece good enough to be the Last Word on the unjust imprisonment of Plaxico Burress, nonetheless, I figure I will do mop-up duty, as well as second his excellent commentary. Indeed, I believe that Burress is a political prisoner who is being disguised by the press as a felon. Given that the mainstream media today is little more than a mouthpiece for the political classes, I think it is safe to say that the press does not 'get it,' nor ever will." ...

"Once upon a time, the authorities would have seen Burress’ wound as being substantial punishment for not having his equivalent of a firearms hall pass, and he would have received a legal slap on the wrist ..." ...
 

Are opponents of Amtrak gun bill supporting terrorism?
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Last Monday, we looked at a sampling of the hysteria triggered by a Senate vote to cut off federal funding for Amtrak, unless passengers are once again permitted to travel with locked, unloaded firearms in their checked baggage. In that column, I focused mostly on how silly the citizen disarmament advocates' claimed fears were ... Now, though, it occurs to me that this is no laughing matter--that Mayor Bloomberg, Representative McCarthy, and company, are actually resisting a change that could do much to combat the very real dangers of terrorism."

"I am not referring to a scenario in which armed passengers would dispatch the terrorists before they could accomplish their evil mission ..." ...
 

Defending self-defense in gun-ban war
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Gov. Jan Brewer recently signed five pieces of legislation that foster gun-safety education in Arizona's schools and reinforce the rights of gun owners in the state into law."

"The legislation was sponsored by Sens. Jack Harper and Russell Pearce, and mandates that Arizona's Right-to-Carry permit holders are allowed to defend themselves in public restaurants, store their firearm in a locked vehicle while parked in a publicly accessible parking lot, and reveal their firearm to an individual threatening them or a loved one."

"Furthermore, the new law states that an individual who shoots someone in self-defense is innocent until proven guilty." ...
 

Gun Rights Policy Conference a big success
Submitted by: Daniel White
Website: http://www.OhioCCW.org

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"The 24th Annual Gun Rights Policy Conference, 'Challenges Ahead,' wrapped up this weekend, and was jam packed with good information for pro-gun activists across the country."

"While we are faced with a multitude of challenges from the economy and an anti-gun administration, there is plenty of hope for the future if we're willing to work for it."

"Alan Gottlieb, the architect of the Conference who is also founder of the Second Amendment Foundation and chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, was joined by top activists from around the country to present on such topics as federal affairs, international treaties, state legislation, and judicial precedents." ...
 

Saving the Second Amendment
Submitted by: Rick Schwartz
Website: http://hubpages.com/hub/Need-business-capital-but-have-poor-credit-No-problem

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"This week on Uncommon Knowledge, the man who saved the Second Amendment."

"In 2007, Judge Laurence Silberman, senior judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, wrote a decision overturning the District of Columbia’s ban on handguns. The following year, the Supreme Court agreed with him." ...
 

Nordyke: Another Right to Arms Case
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"The 'Chicago Gun Cases' are now pending in the Supreme Court, which should vote on September 29 whether to hear them or not. In the meantime, yet another case is slowly moving in the same direction. Like the Chicago cases, the main issue is whether the 2nd Amendment applies to the States via the 14th Amendment."

"Nordyke v. King challenges an Alameda County, California, regulation forbidding carrying of firearms on county property, a rule that was aimed at barring gun shows from the county fairground. Gun show organizers filed suit in 1999 – yes, the case has bounced from one court to another for a full decade! It finally arrived in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers the far west and has historically been anti-gun." ...
 

Tacoma’s Bulls Eye Shooter’s Supply is still open; owner blasts 'partial coverage'
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Before the local and national press gloat too loudly over their chance to report that a federal judge has upheld revocation of a federal firearms license (FFL) to Tacoma's Bull's Eye Shooter Supply, they need to get their story straight…or at least tell all of it." ...

"... the government was found to have properly revoked the FFL of former Bull's Eye owner ... Unfortunately for ... the current owner and operator of the gun shop, ... the Associated Press, Tacoma News Tribune, Seattle Times and on-line Seattle Post-Intelligencer are not telling the rest of the story ..."

"And what is the rest of this story?"

"... Kindschuh reported Monday afternoon that his FFL ... had just been renewed for three more years. ..." ...
 

Pocket Docket: Supreme Court's New Season
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Questions before the Supreme Court, which begins its new term Monday, include corporate political spending, dog-fighting videos, a cross in the desert -- and whether a more unified conservative bloc emerges." ...

"The court also is considering whether to hear several other cases with broad implications, such as whether the Second Amendment right to self-defense, which the court first identified last year, limits state weapons regulations. The 2008 decision, a 5-4 vote, split along ideological lines."

"The court's five conservatives voted together in that case and have begun paring back liberal precedents in others. But they have often failed to agree on the reasoning behind shared outcomes ..." ...
 

Scary: Bullet Makers Can't Keep Up With Demand
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"So here's a disconcerting little headline. From the Associated Press (via the Houston Chronicle): Bullet makers can't keep up with demand" ...

"This is only the latest news report showing a rise in demand for guns and ammo since Obama took office. But the president didn't accomplish this on his own; a good deal of credit goes to the gun lobby, which has always relied on fearmongering and paranoia as critical parts of its strategic arsenal. In its propaganda campaign in the run-up to the 2008 election, the NRA portrayed Obama as the most anti-gun candidate in the history of the republic." ...
 

Our species is waging war on nonhuman animals and the Earth…
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"'We are members of the most destructive culture ever to exist. Our assault on the natural world, on indigenous and other cultures, on women, on children, on all of us through the possibility of nuclear suicide and other means – all these are unprecedented in their magnitude and ferocity.' - Derrick Jensen"
"Jensen's words resonate deeply with me. My allies and I are currently engaged in an intense battle with individuals who embody the destructiveness of our culture as they ... are preparing to massacre 300 graceful and innocent whitetail deer in a costly, bloody, unnecessary and insane 'culling' of the herd in suburban, family-oriented Shawnee Mission Park. ..." ...
 

Bill Clinton: 'Vast right-wing conspiracy' as 'virulent' as ever
Submitted by: Larry

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"The 'vast right-wing conspiracy' that attacked him during his presidency has been weakened, but continues to operate against President Obama, former President Clinton said Sunday."

"On NBC's 'Meet the Press,' Clinton was asked about the term his wife Hillary Clinton, now secretary of state, famously coined. 'Is it still there?' host David Gregory asked."

"'Oh, you bet. Sure it is. It's not as strong as it was, because America's changed demographically, but it's as virulent as it was,' the former president replied." ...
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KABA Note: *snort!* Not as strong as it was? I guess he hasn't heard about the Tea Party in DC on 9-12 or seen the pictures.
 

Memo to the NRA: Lighten up a little
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Sometimes the National Rifle Association needs to know when it’s time to lighten up."

"It pains us to say that ..."

"But the organization jerked the trigger recently when it targeted ... Massachusetts mayors because they had the temerity to join Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a national organization that works to deny irresponsible and criminal citizens from getting their hands on guns."

"It would take the logical skills of Aristotle to explain the finer points of why these groups disagree. ..." ...
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Submitter's Note: No it wouldn't. Let's look at just one topic, closing the mythical gun show loophole. MAIG want's gun show promoters to 'register' with the AG, pay a fee and get a license. No limit on the fee, no mention of requirements to get a license. Really makes you want to run a gun show, doesn't it.

Anyone who sells as much as a single gun at a show, or talks to someone about a gun which they later buy elsewhere, is a 'vendor' and must be registered with the promoter. Failure to do so will send the buyer and seller to prison for two years, but the promoter faces five years. Still want to run a gun show?

How about the waiver of your 4th, 5th 6th and 14th amendment rights? "[T]he Attorney General may enter during business hours the place of business of any gun show promoter and any place where a gun show is held for the purposes of examining the records required by sections 923 and 932 and the inventory of licensees conducting business at the gun show. Such entry and examination ... shall not require a showing of reasonable cause or a warrant." No warrant required, no presumption of innocence. Still want to run a gun show?
 

More Bezmenov
Submitted by: concerned american
Website: http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com

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Please watch this CBC interview with Soviet KGB defector Yuri Bezemenov; in one part, Bezmenov explains how the KGB transformed nations it wished to subvert/destroy:

...To change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.

It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow, and it is divided in four basic stages. The first one being demoralization ... [over] 15-20 years. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years it takes to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy...



 

Safer Streets 101: the V-Tech discussion on preventing violence, Part III
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"In Part II, I wrote that I appreciate Virginia Tech's open forum on violence prevention and her inclusion of gun owners in the dialogue. It is critical to any honest search for understanding to include the real experts, and when it comes to safety on campus, it must include those experts much more likely to be present: other students."

"I have received comments that one cannot 'choose' to refuse to be a victim. One can. The alternative is, of course, in choosing not to refuse to be a victim. In short, these people refuse to refuse to be a victim. They do nothing. The tone of some of the mail has been belligerent, with a cast of no solution to it. ..." ...
 

Safer Streets 101: V-Tech's violence prevention forum, Part IV
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"In Part III, I posted that it would be very good for the Virginia Tech Violence Prevention forum to include the real experts from people who would love nothing better than to prevent violence: gun owners. As a past full-time EMS professional, I would love to prevent gunshot wounds and other acts of horrific violence. I’ve seen it."

"How does a Paramedic reconcile being prepared to use lethal force with a mission of saving lives? Gun owners will also answer this question for the forum. It stops violence and it saves lives."

"I laud the armed student as expert because when one elects to own a handgun at all, one has by then concluded that lethal force is as essential as any preparedness is. ..." ...
 

SC: Robber ends up running for his life after Hilton Head home owner shoots at him
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"A man stealing a coin collection in a Hilton Head Plantation home at noon Wednesday found himself running for his life after the homeowner shot at him and chased him out of the house."

"The unidentified man, who was armed with a large stick or club, broke into a house on Teal Lane while the residents were inside ..."

"The intruder entered through the unlocked front door and walked down the hall into a bedroom, where he started stealing a coin collection, according to the release. The owner confronted the robber, who threatened the owner and kept taking the coins ..."

"The owner ran to another room, grabbed a handgun and chased the robber. ..." ...
 

A tale of two churches
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Last week in Mitchell County, a man with gun robbed a preacher in his church. The story notes that armed robbers held up three deacons at a church in Camilla, Georgia, about a month ago. What makes this ironic is that Georgia is one of only five states that makes it illegal for a preacher, or anybody else, to carry a firearm to or while at a church. ..." ...

"Since most other states do not have a gun ban for churches, the outcome ... is sometimes very different from what happens in Georgia. Yesterday (Sunday), a preacher shot an armed robber in Detroit, Michigan. he robber is expected to survive, but we cannot help but observe that criminals in Michigan are learning a very different lesson from criminals in Georgia. ..."
 

FL: Officials: Anti-Terrorist Training in Synagogues Not a Great Idea
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"A New York City rabbi who thinks synagogues should be mazel-tough when it comes to security during holy days like Sunday’s Yom Kippur has taken matters into his own hands, offering his own brand of anti-terrorist training to clergy."

"However most local Jewish leaders said there are better ways to ensure safety than pistol-packing rabbis. Law enforcement doesn’t like it, either." ...

"However, a terse e-mail statement from Jacksonville Undersheriff Frank Mackesy on Moskowitz's program said the Sheriff’s Office doesn't 'encourage anyone to take the law into their own hands. Be aware of your surroundings and contact the police.'" ...
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As David Codrea points out: "Get that? Self-defense = taking the law into your own hands according to 'Only One' Mackesy, who is under no legal obligation to protect anyone."
 

IL: Video: Teen Attacked, Beaten to Death in Melee
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"This is the hard lesson some students at Fenger High School have to deal with after a day of learning. For them it's a hard lesson of reality on the streets."

"No knives and no guns were used in Thursday's fight. Just fists, feet and boards."

"Derrion Albert, 16, was struck in the head by one of those boards."

Seconds later the honor student hit the pavement. ..." ...
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Submitter's Note: A "gun free school zone" inside "gun free Chicago" inside "gun free Illinois" was the scene of a brutal beating with a board, and an honors student is dead.

And the disarming of the innocents continues...
 

SC: GOP Candidate Holds 'Machine Gun Social'
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"A South Carolina candidate is literally 'gunning' for the job."

"He's using a machine gun social as his first campaign fundraiser."

"Dean Allen is running for Adjutant General."

"The Adjutant General is in charge of the states defense forces such as the South Carolina National Guard."

"Allen is trying out some high-caliber fundraising to help him get the job." ...

"'Well I wanted a place where we could have some fun. You know most political candidates, republican side in particular, they want to get out to the country club and stand around with a glass of wine in their hand and everybody talk,' said Allen."

"Instead, he held a 'machine gun social' at Allen Arms Indoor Range in Greenville, South Carolina." ...
 

VA: NRA Endorses 3 Candidates
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Three Republicans seeking re-election to the General Assembly in the central Valley on Nov. 3 have received the endorsement of the National Rifle Association, according to the organization's Web site."

"Dels. Matt Lohr, R-Broadway, Steven Landes, R-Weyers Cave, and Todd Gilbert, R-Woodstock, all received the nod."

"The NRA is a nonprofit organization with the stated aim of working to protect Second Amendment rights, often referred to as the constitutional right 'to bear arms.'"

"According to its Web site, the NRA regards 'gun control' schemes as an infringement on those rights." ...
 

VA: Cline Endorsed by the National Rifle Association
Submitted by: New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
Website: http://www.nysrpa.org

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"Delegate Ben Cline (R-Rockbridge) was endorsed today by the National Rifle Association with the group's highest 'A+' rating. With over 120,000 members in Virginia, the NRA is recognized as America’s foremost defender of Second Amendment rights. The Association endorsed Cline in the race for the 24th House of Delegates seat following a review of questionnaires filled out by Cline and his opponent, each candidate's voting record, if applicable, and each candidate's policy positions. Delegate Cline is one of only ten members of the House of Delegates to receive an 'A+' rating in 2009." ...
 

TN: Knox County Commission votes to allow guns in parks
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Knox County Commission today voted 13-5 in favor of allowing handgun permit holders to carry their weapons in county parks."

"Voting to allow guns in parks were Commissioners Tony Norman, Ivan Harmon, Mike Hammond, Craig Leuthold, Richard Briggs, Brad Anders, Greg 'Lumpy' Lambert, R. Larry Smith, Michele Carringer, Bud Armstrong, Dave Wright, Mike Brown and Paul Pinkston."

"Voting for the ban were Commissioners Sam McKenzie, Thomas 'Tank' Strickland, Mark Harmon, Amy Broyles and Finbarr Saunders."

"Those arguing in favor of handguns in parks said it should be allowed under the Second Amendment and that there have been few instances of problems with violence in Knox County Parks." ..
 

DoJ Official Blows Cover Off PATRIOT Act
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"In the debate over the PATRIOT Act, the Bush White House insisted it needed the authority to search people's homes without their permission or knowledge so that terrorists wouldn't be tipped off that they're under investigation."

"Now that the authority is law, how has the [DoJ] used the new power? To go after drug dealers."

"Only three of the 763 'sneak-and-peek' requests in fiscal year 2008 involved terrorism cases, according to a July 2009 report from the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts. Sixty-five percent were drug cases."

"... 'This authority here on the sneak-and-peek side, on the criminal side, is not meant for intelligence. It's for criminal cases. ...' [Assistant Attorney General David] Kris said." ...
 

Never, Never, NEVER go to the Police for “Help”
Submitted by: Larry

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"Several years ago, after catching one of my children trying to steal a small toy from a convenience store, I took him to the local police department to arrange a mini- 'Scared Straight' lecture." ...

"Although that melodramatic little exercise turned out well, as I recall that episode today I can't help but wonder if I had momentarily taken leave of my sanity."

"Every encounter between citizens and law enforcement, even those involving cooperative parents trying to correct wayward children, is pregnant with the possibility of unprovoked criminal violence under the color of state 'authority.' Witness the infuriating case of Kathleen Copelin Pastula." ...
 

And This Isn’t Even a First Amendment Issue (video)
Submitted by: Larry

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You should watch the video from the beginning. The macing doesn’t happen until about 3:57 into the video.
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KABA Note: Mr Kramer is correct: since they weren't protesters, this isn't a First Amendment issue
 

US Tapes of the OKC Bombing Doctored
Submitted by: Larry

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The feds have finally released, 14 years later, some of the security tapes showing some aspects of the bombing. But as the heroic lawyer Jesse Trentadue points out, there are blank spots and some editing as well. Come on, federales: release all the tapes, undoctored. Or is there some reason you are still withholding evidence and obstructing justice?
 

Secret Oklahoma City Bombing Tapes Released: Claims of FBI Doctoring
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"The F.B.I. finally released 20 secret, long-held security camera tapes of the deadly 1995 Oklahoma City bombing ... The disturbing, soundless images don’t show the actual bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, on 9:02 a.m. ..." ...

"Some of the clocks on the tapes are slower than the actual time and others like, the Regency Tower tape, turn to static at the time of the explosion. Trentadue is suggesting a government conspiracy is responsible for the glitches in the tapes." ...

"[McVeigh's] conspiracy-fueled paranoia has frightening correlations to the anti-government sentiment that is bubbling up from right-wing conservatives today, fueled by hate and fear-mongering from right-wing talk radio ..." ...
 

G20 Police Photo Op
Submitted by: Larry

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A group of cops. An arrested citizen. A photo op. Reminds me of posing with your catch hanging by the hook, still on the fishing rod. Watch here.

Serving and protecting. Protecting and serving.
 

NJ: Grand Jury Indicts Passaic Cop (video)
Submitted by: jac

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FULL TEXT BELOW:

A New Jersey police officer who was seen on surveillance video beating an unarmed man has been indicted.

Passaic Police Officer Joseph Rios III faces an aggravated assault charge and one count of official misconduct stemming from the May 29 incident.

A restaurant surveillance camera captured Rios, 28, flinging Ronnie Holloway, 50, to the ground at a Passaic intersection and hitting him while Rios' partner paces around nearby.

Rios' attorney, Anthony Iacullo, said Monday that his client denies any wrongdoing and expects to be vindicated once evidence is presented to a jury.

The Passaic County prosecutor says Rios' partner faces departmental charges.

Both Rios and his partner have been suspended without pay.
 

IL: Obama’s Hometown Police: Useless at Best, Deadly at Worst
Submitted by: Larry

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... "Ah, yes — a 'police presence' will be so reassuring to local parents, given the craven behavior of Chicago’s 'Finest' during the actual murder of Derrion Albert: As the Chicago Tribune noted, 'The first officers who arrived on the scene waited until backup arrived before they broke up the fight, witnesses said.'"

"That's right: Armed 'officers' — plural — sat by and refused to intervene while an innocent 16-year-old was beaten to death in front of them." ...

"While the well-compensated armed heroes of the Chicago PD hesitated until they had the advantage of numbers, unarmed civilians intervened at personal risk in a genuinely heroic, albeit doomed, effort to save the honor roll student." ...
 

LA: Ball mayor, police chief and others indicted over alleged Gustav fraud
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"A federal grand jury Friday indicted the mayor of Ball, the town's police chief and three other municipal employees in a case involving hurricane disaster fraud."

"... indictments were handed up Friday against Mayor Roy Hebron, Chief of Police Jay Barber, town Clerk Brenda Kimball, police officer Curtis Atkins and Judy Crowe, a police department employee." ...

"All five were charged in a three-count indictment with disaster fraud and conspiracy to commit disaster fraud for falsifying employee timesheets linked to the town's request for payroll reimbursement from [FEMA] after 2008's Hurricane Gustav. Washington said Hebron and Kimball also face a count of theft of government money for similar actions after Hurricane Rita." ...
 

AZ: We're the Only Ones Doing No Wrong Enough
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"A Phoenix police officer who mistakenly shot an armed homeowner during a search for an intruder was cleared of wrongdoing this week by a committee that reviews such shootings."
"Let's review:"

"Citizen's home is invaded."

"Citizen confronts intruder and holds him at bay, using a gun to deter violence. If he'd deployed with anything else--a kitchen knife, a fireplace poker, a Louisville Slugger--chance are there would have been blood."

"There was anyway."

"An 'Only One' comes barging in with his gun blazing without knowing what the hell the situation is and f***s everything up, shooting the homeowner in the back."

"All according to official protocol, mind you. He did nothing wrong." ...
 

NY: Off-duty cop charged in DWI crash that killed pastor's daughter: police, 1 other officer fled scene
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"A drunk off-duty cop mowed down a Brooklyn pastor's daughter Sunday as she left a wedding - and three others in his car, including another officer, fled, police sources said."

"Officer Andrew Kelly was behind the wheel of his blue Jeep Grand Cherokee when he hit Vionique Valnord, 32, who was hailing a cab at Avenue N and E. 56th St. in Old Mill Basin, police said."

"The impact sent Valnord, who had left a friend's wedding moments before the 1a.m. accident, flying through the air. She died soon after at Kings County Hospital."

"Kelly, a seven-year veteran cop, is assigned to the 68th Precinct in Bay Ridge. He was charged with vehicular manslaughter and driving while intoxicated, police said." ...
 

Worst kind of economic stimulus
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"Gun control, as the old joke goes, means using both hands. But America’s gun owners are not in a laughing mood these days."

"... The fear is that the Democrats will try to push through new gun control legislation, ban certain types of weapons and ammunition and even impose new taxes."

"The Associated Press reported last week about the booming sales of bullets as people stock up in anticipation of future bans, restrictions and taxes." ...

"Bullet makers are enjoying an economic stimulus that's driven by fear. While it's true that the winds of political change could one day blow against the Second Amendment on Capitol Hill, today that's just not the case. It's always worth watching, but today, there's nothing to see."
 

CA: Readers have plenty of ammo for gun column
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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... "But first I have to mention the rather large number of truly interesting responses to my opinions that can be read online at dailybreeze.com/bogert."

"Here's a snippet of one from 'Honest Citizen' in San Antonio, Texas: 'Why thank you, John for granting us peasants our limited gun privileges. We unwashed ignorant ones are ever so grateful when our lofty superiors throw us a meager bone. John, you're confusing privileges with rights! ... But let's cut to the chase. It's really not about fear, it's about power. An armed people frighten you, John, and thwart your deep-down desire to force us unwashed ignorant citizens to march into your particular Stalinist earthly utopian fantasy.'" ...
 

OH: 2009 Gun Skills Challenge a big hit! (video)
Submitted by: Bruce Krafft

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"This year's Buckeye Firearms Gun Skills Challenge at the Pickaway Sportsmans Club went above and beyond all expectations!"

"Located halfway between Circleville and Lancaster on Rt-22, Pickaway Sportsmans Club boasts no less that five pistol bays, a large rifle range, fishing, and primitive camping for its members."

"Needless to say, we were there for the pistol shooting, the great food, and fellowship with our dear BFA friends, supporters, and family!"

"Michael, James and crew started us out with some basic pistol handling drills then moved us up to shooting some steel targets. Everybody loved hearing those plinks! And everybody learned a lot about trigger management!" ...
 

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