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    | CA: Five types of gun laws the Founding Fathers loved Submitted by: 
			
Mark A. Taff
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    | Both of these beliefs ignore an irrefutable historical truth. The framers and adopters of the Second Amendment were generally ardent supporters of the idea of well-regulated liberty. Without strong governments and effective laws, they believed, liberty inevitably degenerated into licentiousness and eventually anarchy. Diligent students of history, particularly Roman history, the Federalists who wrote the Constitution realized that tyranny more often resulted from anarchy, not strong government.
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    | Comment by: 
     PHORTO
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    | Sorry, Sparky, that horse done left th' barn. 
 The ordinances you list were local. The BoR only bound the United States until 1868, when the 14A applied it to bind the states, wholesale. The judiciary (being too-clever-by-half) decided that IT would decide which provisions and when were 'incorporated'. The dubious nature of 'incorporation doctrine' aside, it is now moot - the 2A has been incorporated to bind the states.
 
 And, the right to take up arms against a rogue government was clearly elucidated in the Declaration of Independence, which set the First Principles in place that undergird the Constitution. That the colonies DID take up arms against the monarchy proves that, Q.E.D.
 
 So, get lost, you cretin..
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