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Second Amendment gun rights invoked in birthright citizenship debate
Submitted by: Mark A. Taff
Website: http://www.marktaff.com

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President Trump’s challenge this week to the long-held understanding that the Constitution guarantees citizenship to children born on U.S. soil, even if their mother was in the country illegally, has invoked another hotly debated constitutional right — to bear arms.

Gun control advocates have long questioned whether the Constitution’s seemingly straightforward Second Amendment “right of the people to keep and bear arms” really means that the lady next door can legally keep a semiautomatic rifle in her bedroom. Courts and constitutional scholars have long sided with gun rights advocates who say it does.
 

Comment by: xqqme (11/2/2018)
Textualists? Not really. That ellipsis in the middle of their quote leaves out some pretty interesting clarifying language, including "and subject to the jurisdiction" of the US. For example, a baby born here of parent(s) from Mexico, who grows up and commits murder, then flees to Mexico to avoid prosecution and the death penalty, will NOT be extradited by Mexico on the basis of dual citizenship... so they are NOT subject to the jurisdiction of the USA, and therefore NOT citizens by birth. That particular issue is because Mexico's recognition of dual citizenship.
 

Comment by: PHORTO (11/2/2018)
xqqme - Like the Second Amendment, whose author and contemporaries made very clear that it protected a right of the people, not of the states, the author of the 14th Amendment's "subject to the jurisdiction" clause stated unequivocally that does not protect the children of aliens or of foreign diplomats.

Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, considered the father of the 14th Amendment, explained the language of the amendment this way: “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your constitution [sic] itself a natural born citizen…” - www.afa.net

"not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty" is the key. According to this clause's author,
 

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