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More research finds “stand your ground” laws lead to more homicides
Submitted by: Mark A. Taff
Website: http://www.marktaff.com

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The research increasingly suggests that “stand your ground” laws — which expand the reach of self-defense laws to remove a “duty to retreat” in public spaces — cause more homicides and do not reduce violent crime.
 

Comment by: PHORTO (9/28/2019)
An increase in justifiable homicides isn't a bad thing.
 

Comment by: jac (9/28/2019)
"The laws have become particularly controversial in Florida, where “stand your ground” first passed and subsequently came up after the shootings of Markeis McGlockton and Trayvon Martin."

This statement invalidates the entire article. Stand Your Ground was never invoked in the Trayvon Martin shooting trial.

Any time stand your ground is a valid defense, the right person was shot.
 

Comment by: Judge100 (9/29/2019)
This is more nonsense from Vox.com. For a sampling of their anti-gun lies see John Lott's interview "John Lott Q&A: Debunking Vox.com Gun Lies" at https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/articles/2017/3/30/john-lott-qa-debunking-vox-com-gun-lies/
Stand your ground protects the law abiding citizen from having to seek a retreat where none may be available, thereby placing the life of the innocent at risk. Also a claim that anything is "associated with" an increase in any kind of crime does not mean it causes that increase. A famous example is that the increase in the water level of the Rhine River is "associated with" an increase in crime in Germany. Both the river level and crime increases during the summer months.
 

Comment by: Judge100 (9/30/2019)
Rand looked at 3 studies. One found the relationship between total homicides and stand your ground to be "uncertain". The other two resulted in only Rand's finding of "moderate" support for the proposition that stand your ground may increase total homicides and only "limited" support for an increase in gun homicides. One study's "estimates and their confidence intervals (CIs) may be unreliable indicators of the true effect of the law". Defects in the other study's model meant that "factors other than the stand-your-ground law cannot be ruled out as the cause of the observed differences between Florida and the control states." https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/stand-your-ground/violent-crime.html
 

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